I’m not memeing, I’m legitimately curious if there has been a season with as horrible representation and balance as right now.
S5 DKs still give me nightmares, but I think overall this is the worst I’ve ever seen it because it’s a big picture issue, rather than 1 class.
S5 was a mess I agree, either you were a death knight or you lost. I think they were nerfed mid s5 right?
PvP was worse in BC because literally all that mattered was gear. Those people with brutal nether drake were PvE raiders especially ret paladins were busted. They used a tier that wasn’t even their main tier and it made their self heals Op af
Never did bc arena, can you elaborate on Ret? Like did it boost flash of lights heal?
the boomy demo lock rsham meta in legion was just as bad.
I didn’t play in BC i work with a guy/friends with that has Brutal drake and played ret pally and was talking to me about it for a good while. Would have to ask him
Edit: Also would like to say anytime destro lock is Op the meta is completely awful. Sitting behind a pillar for 15min is bad
BC is a blur for me. I just remember being a hard stuck 1400 Mage running MM Fire Holy pally with rl friends. No idea about setting up kills or comps.
I’ve been told that bc was the time where you can click your skills to gladiator, now you need full macros just to hit challenger
I got 2.2k in S2 running ele in 5s as 2345
Really don’t recall Ret being up there When there was stuff like SL/SL locks, resistence gear in arenas, Warriors doing 75% Healing debuffs, resto druids (unironically) etc
People really overplay the whole everyone was bad back then, There were amazing players and high skill floors for every class back when we had actual spells
I remember watching warcraftmovies everyday after school jus to improve
Now i barely care to play
So if you didn’t play in BC then how would you know it was worse? Gear has always mattered, just varying levels of importance over the years. PVP gearing in TBC was better (You actually needed to achieve rating to obtain epic pieces of PVP gear for shoulders/head etc), and there was the resilience stat which reduced damage taken in instanced PVP. A PVP only stat that seperated PVPers from the PVErs.
TBC was when Arena was fresh and a new concept. People were figuring out what worked best in all brackets as you could get titles from 2s/3s/5s.
I’d say that WOTLK and Cata both had the worst seasons of Arena PVP. Shadowmourne TSG and Fangs of the Father RMP. Warglaive rogues in TBC was also pretty bad, but no where near the garbage of WOTLK and Cata. If you think the meta now is cancer, go look up videos of those comps lol
Oh and people whine about Elemental shamans now ROFL. WOTLK meatballs crit for 12k or more when health pools were around the 30k mark. Back when Ele mastery was overload proc too lmao.
Don’t know who told you that, but we had more abilities to macro/press in TBC than we do now. Sooo I don’t think that’s actually true ha.
Battle “i hate ret paladins” Zone.
not even ret paladins from over a decade ago were safe
Someone needs to show Battlezone a 2s match from TBC against double soul link affliction locks. Ohhhh memories.
Maybe, some classes really needed macros to work at full potential, unlike now. I guess everyone forgot Warriors having to change stances for different abilities.
I’m also pretty sure gear wasn’t AS important back then, I remember my old guild leader in WotLK said he had some Glad titles he got with a couple of pieces of green gear back in TBC. I’m not sure if he was lying or not though.
I’d say gearing was very important. The PVP gear had the resilience stat and there was also some PVE gear that was BIS that people would stack resilience gems in.
There were definitely a lot more insane pvpers back then though that were just stupidly good at the game and the game back then was a lot more about counter play where if you out played your opponent you would generally win the match. Pretty much complete polar opposite of the game now ha.
EDIT: Also If i remember correctly, CCs didn’t DR back then like they do now.
maybe you forgot, the ret pvp set was the ONE set with no resilience on their ish lol
not until s3 did they budget scaled plate armor to have res
I remember a vid of a naked SL/SL lock killing everyone in duels (when duels were somewhat balanced/fun)
The biggest Damp
No this is the worst season the game has ever seen.
WotLK/TBC had unbalanced seasons and blatantly broken specs/classes etc but the difference was the game was fun to play and it didn’t matter as much
Now the game is just horrible and some classes are still just way better than others.
Look at mop - lots of specs were op as frick (s12 demo lock, s13 feral/ret etc) but the game was really fun so no one cared as much.
Now certain specs are just braindead + the game is boring so this is def the worst season ever by far - in fact the entire expansion is just complete poop
edit: gear still matters a lot in the current expansion so i have no idea what the argument about tbc being gear > everything is. it was easier to get rating back then if you were ahead of the curve for the time but that was more the people at higher ratings just understanding the game slightly better than the others.