Or is raiding mandatory to pvp? Thinking I shouldn’t have subbed for 3 months.
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What sort of pvp gear are you talking about? Gear for phase 1 is out. All wsg rep gear is available and rank 3 gear as well.
Or you talking about later phases?
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Talking about pvp gear that can compete with the raid gear. Can’t do any damage with the statless vendor stuff, no vendor weapons to come anywhere near bfd weapons
This is my biggest gripe. It would be one thing if phase 1 was only a few weeks long. But it appears like it’s going to be a couple of months. I only play era for the PVP gear grind. But there’s nothing to do here. There’s one trinket slot that you can get in one day of wsg.
You cannot focus on PvP in SoD. If you aren’t raiding every 3 days, you will just get steamrolled by the people who are raiding and decide to stop by wsg for a game or two and absolutely face roll you.
This should not be the case. There needs to be some sort of PVP gear progression that keeps up with raiders.
There will be at level 60 with Grand Marshal/High Warlord gear.
Well, I’ll put it to you this way. Imagine the raid at lvl 25 didn’t drop any gear except for a trinket. And you can expect the same thing for the remaining phases for every new raid implemented. You just raid for the fun of it and maybe gain reputation for gear that will be sub-par when you can finally access it at level 60.
Meanwhile, PvPers are enjoying gear progression and getting epic lvl 25 items. They can just walk into a raid for fun and lap every raider in damage since raiders are all just wearing greens from world drops.
And then when you bring up this problem you are told that at level 60, raids will give you MC/BWL level gear, while pvpers are earning AQ level gear.
That would be silly, right?
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Maybe?!
Or maybe PVP is the end game.
Maybe to you. But classic has always had two parallel gear progression systems that have their own followings. Albeit, Raiding has been more popular, but PVP also has a sizable fan base that probably shouldn’t be alienated for a season.
Honestly, to me the end game in Vanilla has always been the journey.
It’s vanilla there is no pvp gear…its just gear…there is no resilience in this game. yeah you have to play the MMO to get gear for all aspects of the MMO…
My god, this forum is void of all common sense, it’s nothing but people crying and whining… Yes you have to play the video game to get the gear…imagine.
Its lvl 25…there is no area…its bgs world pvp and raid content/dungs, all use the same gear, even Highwarlord/GM gear is bis for pve progression for many classes during first generation ranking going into BWL…
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I mean that’s fair, but I doubt you wouldn’t perhaps raise a concern if the journey didn’t involve any kind of gear progression.
Yes and that’s what PVP should be rewarding. A progression system of gear you can use anywhere that matches the time it takes the average raider to gear up in raids. That is the classic experience.
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Except you didn’t in classic. Perhaps you should return to the version of the game you enjoy, where players are forced to do PvE!
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I mean, I get the point you’re making…
People who PVP regularly will rise in rank and have access to pretty decent gear when they hit 60, and weapons too once AQ comes out.
And my point was, well… maybe that should encourage more people to participate in PVP.
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Well, unless things change, that gear will not remotely compete with AQ gear. So that in and of itself is a problem. Besides the problem of no gear progression before that.
I mean Blizzard can do whatever they want. Maybe they thought about this and decided there wasn’t enough of a threat to subs in neglecting this aspect of classic. It’s entirely there prerogative. I’m just here to provide feedback from my personal point of view.
Getting rid of rank decay is a great change and will definitely encourage more people to PVP.
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Yes you did, you are a retail player…vanilla was pve for gear in general both pvp and pve are you insane? Did you even play vanilla? all of the bis gear for pvp came from raiding
there is no split pve or pvp mode, its vanilla its a entire MMO, you played all aspects of the game, that’s the point
you people have Retail mentality where game modes got split up into mini games with their own systems, that’s not classic or vanilla at all
YOU DID BOTH PVE AND PVP TO PROGRESS GEAR FOR BOTH PVP AND PVE how hard of a concept is that for you? that was literally how vanilla and old mmos functioned…
Maybe YOU should return to a version of the game where you just pvp for pvp gear and pve for pve gear, that’s not classic, that’s RETAIL
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I didn’t. I just PVPed and the epic gear was great for countering raiders. True sweatlord raiders edged out PVP gear, but PVP gear at least remained competitive. Of course AQ gear invalidated PVP gear. But that was the start of some problems that continued to the next expansion and beyond.
The problem is there’s none of that for this season. There’s no PVP gear to grind that can compete with raiders who just stop by for a novelty game. That’s not how classic works.
So they should fix it ASAP.
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I love watching you cry on the forums.
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Adult conversations providing feedback is not crying. But I see another one of your characters needs to be added to the ignore list. Bye.
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