That would cripple shaman.
If they can manage to make it 1 Imbue of a type at any given time, that would work… but having no AP gain in PvE would put us below frost mages.
Shamans don’t get multiplicative AP gains like Warriors or Rogues do, so we have to have MORE AP just to keep up.
dont paladins kill people in one hoj? whats any diference between playing a roulette spec like enh which you either one shot or get oneshotted.
well i did correct my mistake with some1 i was talking with earlier. i said, i should of said it brings them to their hit cap with 1 rune so they dont need any hit gear.
there is no roulette to enh shaman. they run double rockbiter and way of earth. stormstrike hits 1000+ on all armor types and their autos deal more damage with 1h wapons than mine do as a warrior with 2h.
then i try to attack them personally and my auto does 180 damage because of how much physical mitigation they have with their tank rune.’
entirely too much health/mitigation or damage. it should be one or the other. not both.
do you have a link to your main character? because at this point im pretty sure you are in green/blue gear while fighting blue/epic geared shaman. A ret did 600 AA crit > 700 exorscism > and some random pally ability like judgemnt or divine storm. my 2.5k hp priests dropped to 10% in 2-3 globals. Everyone is doing insane number when fully gnomer geared… Geared pallys are scary aswell on par with geared enh. i feel the only class that’s super easy to kill and doesnt hit as hard are mages unless they oneshot you every arcane surge.
I appreciate these takes, and I want to know what you two would think of a buff to SR/nerf to WoE. E.g. buff shamrage dmg mitigation, and reduce outgoing dmg when using WoE?
I do like that idea. I don’t know what it would look like because Enhance Shamans have pretty terrible issues with mana and sustain. Lowering damage output and making battles more about attrition than burst could be enough to tip them over the line from overtuned to OOM fodder, killing WoE in PvP. The buff to SR might fairly compensate, though.
mostly gnomer plate/mail oriented warrior
yes, i play the only class blizz has deliberately avoided giving any love to because the toxic casuals would be mad if we were good again (and they were when we topped dps in bfd) so my class got barely anything useful this phase.
They could allow SR to be usable while stunned like wotlk.
Post on your sod main lets see if you even play the game youre griping about
that would help keep them from generally being too unkillable while still having access to a defensive while fixing their mana issues.
but as it stands they have entirely too much health, mitigation, and damage
But rets doing 600+ exorcism and 700 seal of command all through armor and divine storm for 700 and crusader strike for 500. Also can do full damage in bubble is fine tho
its probably not. i play alliance so i havent been on the receiving end of a paladin. but you cant even remotely argue that enh shaman isnt overtuned. blizzard way overshot their buffs and it latout breaks them in pvp.
actually i lied ive fought paladins in stv
theyre the only other class i feel like doesnt have consistent damage.
if i see a shaman i avoid it because he has 4k health and has some of the highest damage in the game as well as strong physical mitigation.
maybe a paladin bubbles when he’s low, bit he’s going to die.
your numbers of 600+ exorcism and 700+ command through armor? enh shamans do that against all armor types. their autos doing 400-500 with 1h weapons.
Yea I’m not defending enhance just saying lots of stuff is doing crazy damage probably could use a tune down. But not the only class shadow priest also melting people
i feel like ret is capable of high burst. but its very reliant on command proccing and critting. if it doesnt, you just dont feel a ret hitting you
and then warrior just has the most consistently low damage and utility of any class. relies heavily on being buffed from a party. if you dont have those buffs, ggs.
I did my 10K hours on shaman back in the day and love them. ENH is broken and everything you list that they don’t have is what they don’t even need because they’re so broken.
RB should be MH / two handers only. I think most people agree on this. OH RB causes too much threat for PVE dps anyway. It is very fun to have the option though, so kind of sad…
I think Shamanistic Rage should be a base ability for all sham specs so it can double as a tanking CD as well. This also would help with mana issues during single target tanking with shield and molten blast. Ancestral guidance would be the choice for PVE DPS / provide some off heals value, earth shield would be for healers / PVP / or you throw on a tank for specific encounters, and tanks take WoE.
Nerfing damage while using WoE by 10-15%, but going up to 40-45% threat (from 30%) would be appropriate imo WITH the aforementioned changes. With RB not being on OH, dual wield tanking wouldn’t be as attractive (still good for speed runs) and shield tanking shaman’s threat needs to be similar to other tanks assuming all tanks have Spirit of the Alpha buff.
These changes would steer enhance to use earth shield as our survivability skill for PVP without taking WoE as often since it’s a damage tradeoff. ES and SR are can be dealt with by skill response since they are active skills and more easily mitigated than passive effective health buff from WoE, but good Enh would still wreck.
For 2 handed dps (PVP and PVE), fixes in my opinion include: reducing CD of storm strike when using a 2 handed weapons, stronger versions of single weapon imbues, double imbues, or possibly allow lava lash (typically OH skill) to do partial damage with a 2 hander.
Well now we know you’re just lying to try to get your way.
I’m largely bis on my shaman and the only time I’ve done north of 1000 damage with Stormstrike was catching a drinking clothie by surprise, because them sitting was autocrits from both weapons.
And btw: even with the autoattack crit that accompanied the stormstrike crits… they didn’t get globaled.
RB should be OneHand only. (All imbues should be on one weapon per)
not MH only.
i think maybe youre not as geared as you claim. Just lying to try to get your way and avoid a nerf.