Hardware Unboxed admits they were wrong to recommend the Ryzen 5 1600 in 2017

I actually thought about getting a new car, but I don’t really go anywhere anymore.

So computer parts it is. And they’re much less expensive.

Might also get the new Ryzen 4000 chip if its good. That would solve the “will it bottleneck” and give me PCIE4.

Both? That sounds really interesting. Better than a new car.

eh, more useful and a whole lot cheaper.

Man I had my 2600k @ 4.8Ghz for like 9 years, that thing lasted from launch until I got my 3700x. The last great cpu intel made, now they just come out with trash and personal space heaters. Looking to upgrade my my 3700x to a 4xxx cpu, man it feels good being able to just drop in a new gen cpu without having to change the mobo.

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IMO, the 8700k will go down as 2600k v2.

Its still going really strong 3 years later, and is mostly unchallenged in gaming by the competition.

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2500k, it was cheaper then the 2600k, just as easy to OC, and gave you the same gaming performance for most of its life span

I would also say the 8600k/9600k, 8700k, and 9700k are all great Intel CPUs when OC. The whole multi generation support for the same socket got AMD in trouble last time. If the 4xxxx is as great as the hype then fantastic. If Intel ever gets their head out of their behind then it can be the Phenom II x6 competing against the Intel 2500k/2600k back in early 2011.

I actually came VERY close to getting the limited run 8086k but since zen 2 was right around the corner I hesitated. Also the price pump and no difference in performance made me wait as well.

I saw both the 8086k and the 2700x Anniversary Lisa Su edition, and skipped them both.

Kind of silly unless you’re some kind of collector, and while the 8086 may have had a potentially better silicon, it’s not really any better or worth any type of premium over the standard one.

I generally don’t upgrade unless there’a a significant uplift when it was just me. But now that I’ve got 4 other PC’s in my house with varying degrees of frankenparts, I am a little less hesitant to buy more modest upgrade parts since my old parts always get used.

That reminds me i want to make a media server out of my old 2600k, its just sitting under my bed collecting dust :<

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Presuming I actually manage to get an RTX 3080, the next thing that gets retired in my house is a 1060 3gb after i shift all the GPUs down.

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HUB admits they were wrong to use the 3950x to benchmark the RTX 3080

And by that, they blamed viewers because its what they wanted.

Lol, you (the audience) messed up, you trusted us.

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The data is still helpful, though. Now we know from yet another source that there is CPU limitation even at 1440p between Intel/AMD on the 3080, and PCIE4vs3 isn’t that important (yet).

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my issue is the written article Steve did with this particular quote;
“So for the same reason we don’t test CPU performance with a GTX 1060, we’re not going to test an extreme high-end GPU at 1080p, a resolution almost entirely reserved at this point for budget gaming. As we noted in previous articles covering this subject, it shouldn’t matter which CPU reviewers use for testing the RTX 3080, as they’re almost certainly going to be doing so at 1440p and 4K.”

From a GPU stand point, very few if any 1080p owners (even those with high refresh monitors) would be using the RTX 3080. But Steve is not talking about the GPU but rather the CPUs and 1008p is vital. It clearly helps remove the GPU bottleneck and shows the potential of the CPU for the owners if they plan to upgrade past RTX 3080 performance down the line.

Yep, I’ve said it before but I don’t really care too much about their opinions, I just like the data. The data is enough for me to make my own opinion.

If we’re talking practical application, most people aren’t going to even be using a 10900k, 3950x, or RTX 3080.

If he just wants to talk about “most people” then he should just be focusing on i5-10400s, Ryzen 5 3600s, and RX 5600XT/1660 Supers and the like.

And yet, here we are, reviewing $700 GPUs on $500/600 CPUs. He picks and chooses what angles he wants to take, but then again, I don’t think it’s wrong. He’s an entertainment outlet, and his viewership wants this information. So he gives it to them. That’s not wrong, and it doesn’t make the data lose value (so long as its accurate).

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This topic reminded me…I’m in the market for a new build, play at 1440p and soon to be 4K, looking at a 3700x…does anyone really think it will be worth it to wait for zen3? My main concerns are 10/8 isn’t likely to be the launch, recent product launches don’t leave me with much hope there will be any stock when they DO launch, and above 1080p, CPU upgrades don’t seem to matter THAT much.

I mean, I know in my case it will since I’m coming 4 cores/4 threads, but I digress. I want to get my build going now since the 3080 will have to come later…GG nvidia.

Log into the PTR and see how it performs on your hardware. Will be pretty similar to live SL I think, minus some.

If you can handle that for a while, I’d wait for Zen3.