Hardest raid ever

is LFR N’Zoth. Ha!
(Yes I’m bored).

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For me it was MC during the Warlords anniversary. Watching people try to steamroll it was very entertaining at first but quickly became painful as the night wore on.

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getting LFR to do mechanics is like herding cats.

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LFR has always been a drag but specifically the boss Nzoth takes the icing on the cake. Who new dual phase mechanics would blow a players mind… jeez…

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Pre nerf C’thun? Pre nerf Mythic Crucible? I dunno, just guessing.

Usually when I do LFR N’zoth it only takes two to three tries.

Guess i’m just lucky. Once you directly tell someone where they’re suppose to go during the fight it gets a lot easier.

I’ve never found N’zoth to be particularly hard. We’re just dealing with a generation of raiders who are used to being able to ignore about half of a boss’s mechanics and still win in the end. The boss fight I found took the most coordination and communication was Spine of Deathwing. Not only did the group as a whole need to be synchronized, but some of the mechanics were a bit difficult on an individual level as well. I suppose Kil’Jaeden in WoD was a bit like that too.

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I think it’s LFR G’Huun for me. At least for N’Zoth it was killed at 7 stacks. I spent almost 4 hours on G’Huun for my first LFR kill. (Yeah, need to complete that progression bar…)

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The same is true in dungeons. I cannot count the amount of times I have seen people die to Lord Stormsong’s ancient mindbender or Runecaver Sorn’s carve flesh.

Sartharion 3 drakes, the amount of rage I had when melee one shot themselves because they we’re going balls to the wall on the reflect drake. (I was healing at the time on my shaman.)

I remember that! Finally cleared it on New Years Eve. Yes, the raid stopped every time it became the new year for people’s time zones, but we cleared it with only 1 full wipe. I still find it weird that we cleared it while drinking.

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Not sure about yours, but it didn’t help in mine that the hunters were MD’ing to just random players instead of the tank. Got to the point where they were all booted.

It was really only hard because they did nothing but scale it up. and with how present day dispelling is, that made the whole raid a disaster lol.

Everyone was doing their own thing. The general attitude was “we farm this for mats and tier sets all the time, how hard could it be?”

During the core hound packs I just sat back and watched in amazement as they gathered all the packs up but couldn’t kill them fast enough to keep them from reigniting one another.
Pretty sure that went on for nearly an hour.

One guy tried to tell me that it was a glitch and we would have to drop the group and reset somehow.

Pre-nerf Sunwell.

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LFR Throne of Thunder prenerf.

Pre nerf Muru would prob be it but there have been a lot over the years. There was a blue quote back in WotLK where they talked about Sunwell Plateau. They called it “stupid hard” and that they would “never make anything that hard again”. Obviously it has not aged real well but I think it could be the hardest raid ever made to this day for its time period.

A good tank or two who marks themselves and tells people to follow/stack on them makes the fight much much easier. With tanks who don’t know what they’re doing it will take hours and hours no matter how much DPS you throw at it.

There’s been lots of hard bosses out there. I remember the world first race of Mythic Kil’jaeden, it took three weeks and 650 something attempts for the first guild to actually down it. Even in BfA at 120 he continues obliterating pugs.

On the LFR side Lei Shen was a toughie too when he first came out. Like N’Zoth he had a lot of mechanics and a high turn over of players failing at it.

Have to agree OP, even on Tuesday.