BG’s for hardcore characters don’t make sense. If hardcore characters die permanently in battlegrounds, there is no point in letting them queue.
For stealth classes, no reason to leave stealth. If you queue for AV, you’ll have people just sitting in the cave. It introduces too many concepts that people would exploit. People have previously been banned for afking in the AV cave. Encouraging this behavior by letting hardcore characters queue is an obvious problem. Pretty sure BG’s will simply be disabled for HC official. And if not, it should be HC ONLY battlegrounds, where things like stealth have limited duration and a cooldown, etc.
It won’t affect a HC pve server. The pvp server will simply be DOA.
1 or 2 high levels will simply bottleneck the playerbase in hillsbrad and kill everyone in mass and there’s nothing the base can do about it
A hunter or rogue can play for 48 hours straight, get ahead of the curve. Do another 48 hours and then spend the rest of his days farming everyone off the server.
In what world would anyone think a HC pvp one life server would actually function properly?
It probably wouldn’t but I think the fact that it would probably be a low pop realm might make it somewhat playable. Worst case scenario it would make for decent yt content.
Mak’gora is sweet, and I could never see the insanity of a full on hardcore pvp server… But what if they did this. Hardcore is on a normal realm with all the same rules and such, but similar to osrs’s forest you can stumble into say stv and your pvp would be toggled on inside of that zone. STV being an example, but I like this Idea because if people want to pvp they can pull up to STV (or whatever) and people who don’t want to pvp can avoid said zone like the plague. That being said they’d need to give rewards for being inside of this zone, and can’t allow skull players to kill lowbies for free.
Calling back to ascension if you tag a player who is flagged for pvp out in the world you instantly enter Mak’gara with them where you can 1v1 said person you tag, even if they are in party. This would stop gank parties from killing everything in sight.
The ability to PVP has been a part of the game forever, losing a huge part of it simply ‘because it’s HC’ is dumb, and serves no point. In open world PVP fine, you’re in the world and at a risk, 1 life is what you get, makes sense. I enjoy raids, but I equally enjoy PVP, even if only as a break from everything else. BG’s with 1 life would mean so many issues (those who hide the whole game, etc.) that there would be no point in Q’ing or even having them available in game. And you can fix the ‘unlimited deaths but gets gear still’ argument easy by just… not giving gear . Give out potion packs to help out, or pets, or achievements, rankings fun and titles for things, lots of little things to have fun with for people who will join to PVP simply because they like it and now don’t have to ruin a toon to do it. They get no leg up on anyone for enjoying a big part of WoW. Your entire HC way of life will be unphased by letting BG’s happen unpunished. Unlike economic/trade changes which may affect many and create more disparity/ease/etc. (But go ahead and whine on about that view lol).
I suppose they could go down this route where they make it to where HC players can que multi-life bgs but don’t get any gear for it and instead get toys, achieves, companions, and rep tabards/mounts. I could see that being a viable option but does seem far-fetched considering we’re talking about Blizzard.
Personally, I’d rather have bgs in the game than not since it’s such a huge content loss. Could be really fun to have a multi-life bg bracket vs only people from the HC realms even if there is no gear to be gained.
If you want to pvp join a normal server and leave HC alone. 1 life, 1 death end of story. HC was not how the game was meant to be play but since its here… stop trying to make it like retail. lol
That statement itself was false when it was made and it should never be used. You have no idea what a person does or does not want, or for what reasons they do or do not want it. I am all for a HC PvP server, even if it’s a struggle.
Possibly the most delusional comment on my thread so far. How is making BGs work in HC a retail thing? 0 Sense.
Also, HC is a made-up game mode, why would you willingly make it less fun for no good reason?
Because its not fun. The game mode was probably created by people that were bored with retail, wrath, era. I have zero interest in playing HC because there is no pvp and even if they added no deaths in bgs. I still wouldn’t play it. If I wanted a game mode w/o pvp… its already there and called a PvE server. I love the “War” part in WoW and any mode w/o it is a no go for me.