I’m losing my mind on which covenant to go with (fury spec). Everything I read says vampires are the cats meow because of condemn (single target) but when I had it, it does less damage then regular execute? My condemn was around 2.1k and when I went back to Oribos and checked regular execute it was ~3k. I wish the necrolords banner was a bit stronger, I like the idea of it buffing others but since it’s limited to only 2 people it feels mediocre. The Kyrian I’m really considering because the spear is dope and I like their defensive ability the best. The Night Fae offensive ability is cool but the long ground DoT is kind of meh and I don’t care for their defensive ability.
I don’t maybe having some outside input will help me decide since I feel it’s holding me back from progressing until I choose.
So when using condemn, some of your damage is shadow damage which doesnt show up the same, I think. Additionally condemn lowers the amount of damage the target does to you.
If you plan on raiding, go condemn. If you mainly pvp go kyrian or night fae.
You don’t take condemn because it does more damage than execute. You take condemn because it’s available way more than execute. With condemn and massacre, you’re using “execute” for 55% of a fight.
3 Likes
Condemn is weaker than execute on dummies, but bypasses armor on bosses. I’m not sure if it’s weaker or stronger than execute on bosses however
Not only that, but condemn is also weaker on Fury. It’s another builder, which can be squeezed into the already tight list of options. It’s still a fun ability, but I’m not sure how much it is over everyone else. Last we looked it was ~5% better than Kyrian’s spear.
The actual effective damage has to be higher, else why would everything say ‘always take Massacre with Condemn’. WoW number cruncher I am not but that would only make sense to me if it did more actual damage.
I took a quick look at a few top parses for fury with condemn vs fury with execute at the same ilvl and it seemed execute did slightly more damage each time, they were largely similar though.
An Artificer fight I looked at had execute at 2800-4900 main hand hit over the course of the fight, while condemn at the same ilvl same fight was around 2800-4400. Then looking at Destroyer with the same 2 people execute was 2800-4400 and the condemn was 2600-4600.
Another perk of always taking massacre with condemn is the uptime on Ashen Juggernaut
The cooldown reduction too, duh, dunno why it didn’t occur to me.