I’m pretty sure it stacks with rogues sword spec anyways, so now that 5% is now 7%. and EVER NUMBER COUNTS in classic. That’s why it’s praised so hard, because of math.
“They will praise HoJ as the best trinket ever until they are blue in the face.”
If anything I’d choose HoJ because of the AP over the proc. Doesn’t make it a great trinket, just means there aren’t very many better options.
Nah, it doesnt stack they’re two independant proc chances, if it works anything like warriors sword spec anyway.
That just makes it better from a math stand point XD.
Not even blue in the face about it, I don’t have it, I also don’t want it. I personally don’t think it’s worth it.
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Statistical methods assume things are truly random. Computer simulations of RNG don’t hold to those assumptions, it depends on the implementation of their random generator. Because of that, 5000 is a very small sample size when it comes to computer based rng. It very well could be that over a sample size of say 200,000, the proc rate goes toward the expected value, and he was just caught in an unlucky part of the RNG sequence. The odds of that happening are much higher than statistical confidence intervals suggest when it comes to computer rng.
According to my sims, BB+ Diamond flask when under crit cap. HoJ + Diamond flask when over crit cap.
The proc rate for this thing was so inflated on many of the private servers… Maybe thats why? It was something absurd like 4% even when dual wielding on some servers making it just crazy.
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the proc rate isnt why its trash
its trash because the proc gets batched, making it half as good
But the only upgrade is dft or renataki, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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RNG is RNG. It has a new roll every attack, it’s not a static proc per minute or an on use ability. 1.15% is well within the typical threshold for an RNG based item.
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Well no, over thousands and thousands of swings, it should average out to 2%. Though I wonder if glancing blows don’t proc it, but I doubt it’d make that much of a difference.
Over tens or hundreds of thousands, yes it should. 5,000 is too low of a number to properly calculate the proc chance. We’re talking about him looking at results from a very limited scope of a sample that lasted for more than likey 1 to 2 hours.
Someone else could conduct the same exact test and come to show their results of the trinket having a 3% proc chance. It wouldn’t make their results any better than his. Sample size is too small.
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Just because something has a 50% chance to happen does not mean that is what would actually happen. You could flip a quarter 10 times and it land on heads every time. Granted this is highly unlikely but still possible. Turn that 10 flips into 10,000 flips and you will find the data much closer to an even split between the two sides (assuming there are no physical flaws to the quarter)
this Bruttalis guy hit r14 and has warlord weaps, has full world buffs+consumes, and still does bad dps. cant break 1k dps on vael or get above a 91 parse on anything, with full buffs.
i wouldnt take anything he says seriously.
- He may be threat capped due to tanks
- Kill times may be slow, so could be due to other dps ( biggest factor for parses is kill time)
People think parses are an indicator of an individual’s skill/gear, but is actually more based on the guild as a whole. When bosses blow up in ~30 seconds, you can have deathwish and diamond flask up for the whole fight and recklessness up for 1/3 of the fight. This makes 90+ parses very easy.
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But they can proc off each other increasing the value of both of them.
It’s not that Blizzard nerfed it. It’s that private servers wrongfully buffed it because they just guessed as to how it’s supposed to work. But even then; warriors have nothing better to put on the slot until drake fang in BWL. Until then, the only trinket that competes with BH/HOJ combo is the flask, and that needs to be switched out while on CD.
This would make it MORE effective? Would it not?
HoJ is very good on bear tanks. Having a extra maul land and if that maul were to crit, 
. Your raids DPS will never reach a threat cap. If DFT drops I will be using both that and HOJ since bear pieces in BWL have crazy amounts of armor.
Yes, it does. Just stating how it works.
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