One use is how it has functioned since the beta. It’s clearly been bugged the last few days and they thankfully fixed it. Ret needs a buff, but this degenerate playstyle of spamming HoL is not it.
Templar needs to either have HoL significantly buffed or it needs to maintain the “bugged” playstyle. The so-called degenerate playstyle of spamming HoL at least gives it a little more flavor than spamming Final Verdict for another two years.
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I’m getting nearly 2m crits with HoL. Seriously, what are you all on about? I’ll take templar over herald any day.
this only feels this way because your on RET spec, on PROT it worked like butter with eye of tyr and how much holy power you generate
they need to revert the change and edit it so it works smoothly into RETs rotation without ruining it for PROT
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But it’s ok for Hunter to spam 3mil aimed shot? And aff lock to have 2-3 mil raptures? And boomy can starfire for 2-3 mil? THOSE ARENT EVEN HERO TALENTS!!! AND THEYRE SPAMMABLE.
Rets get a 2-3 use ability in a 12 second window, having to build holy power in between uses and everyone says it’s broken.
It made Templar a viable choice
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this could not be a more true statement, mages are also still spamming ice lance for 600k-1mil every hit even after there nerf too
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No, they don’t.
It already works smoothly.
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I just ran a BG after reading this and topped the damage charts. What do you mean it does no damage? Are you playing prot? lol.
Rets also way studier than a hunter… For the amount of utility Ret has, they can’t be hitting as hard as a pure dps spec compared to paladin being a hybrid class and templar is still plenty bursty given the classes overall utility.
Ret absolutely needs buffs, but spamming HoL aint it.
There are no “pure dps” or “hybrid classes”. It’s not 2009.
It’s not massive it does like 20% of an enemies hp lol. And how is it any worse than spamming FV? If anything, the fact that you need 5 holy power and not 3 means you are spamming it less than FV and spending more of your rotation on generators?
Running a bg and “topping meters” means absolutely nothing mate why even bring it up. Any spec can do that be it trash or op. Ret has lots of aoe padding built in…
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Yes there are but what do you know… a noname forum character ahs no opinion
I really hope they find a way to revert this or rework the tree to make it work as before. As Prot it was so nice to have a spender that was damage focused, particularly single target, and having a burst window with Bastion of Light and Wings to throw out a HoL every other GcD felt so good. I think giving tanks choices between defensive and offensive options is great and allows for more strategic thinking of when to full send and when to play it safe. I’ll admit it would need a nerf as I don’t think the tank should ever be topping the meters on single target boss fights like I was yesterday (HoL and Emperean hammer were ~80% of my damage on some fights) but I loved having the option of spamming hammers or using sotr depending on how safe a fight was.
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no, they will never bring this bug back, yall gaslight yourselves into thinking it was good when it was bad for both prot and ret. yall only like it cause of numbies and the fact you can ignore core spec mechanics without being punished harshly. your entire post is 100% a skill issue
get good
LMAO ignore core spec mechanics? This actually heightens the concept of builders & spenders and makes the rotation more complicated to min max since you have to worry about getting to 5 hp, procs & hp overflow. It made the rotation more fun, flashy, and dynamic and actually moved health bars in pvp. You are the one with the skill issue here.
nah if you actively believe that a bug making out two spenders irrelevant is ag ood thing just shows you lack any knowledge about the spec in general
ya making 3/4th of the hero tree irrelevant for the pvp minigame is totttalllly a good idea
Neither Final Verdict nor Divine Storm were irrelevant with the bug. You still used them when Hammer of Light wasn’t available. Also, the bug didn’t make any of Templar’s talents irrelevant. Not sure what you’re talking about there.
It’s fine to not like the play style the bug introduced, but you’re just insulting people while making easily disprovable claims.
im sorry but if you werent able to perma extend hol then you are bad. end of that story. even with a bug like this people are self reporting
each hol granting 5+ hammers per usage in a 12 second window adds up to 60 real quick quick enough that you can effectively have hol forever. if you couldnt do that then idk what to say
Hopefully since the bug is now fixed, along with Herald bug fixes, Blizz can now more clearly see how our ST is this coming week, without the additional noise.
Personally i didn’t like the HoL spam gameplay, tested it just once in a hc dungeon, then went back to Herald which plays smoothly anyway, it also makes Hammer of Wrath have some good damage.
I really hate how low HoW dmg is, it’s such a let-down.
Maybe we’ll see some ST buffs next week, who knows.
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