Needs to not be faction based and instead just top 150 or 200 guilds period.
There are barely enough alliance guilds we have to wait months for them to finish their hall of fame before we can do Mythic cross realm. Not to mention getting Hall of fame on alliance is laughably Easy.
Make hall of fame top 150 guilds only regardless of faction.
I dont think this is the best solution, but i wholeheartedly support any action that gets us to cross-server mythics faster. Ive been mythic-ready geared for weeks now.
I agree with you that it needs to be changed but I see them keeping it as it is because it is a way to slow us as players down so that they can keep their MAU numbers up.
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Except with Mythic being available sooner for cross server, it would increase their MAU on both Horde AND Alliance.
Not really
If they were to speed it up to where you could cross realm mythic raids faster ,more people would get it done faster and would have no reason to do the content.
By keeping them the way it is people have to keep logging on and doing the content until cross realm mythics are opened.
It is pretty much the way of all content now. Don’t give them what they want or will enjoy but give them what will keep them chasing the carrot.
Like I said I agree changes need to be made but I don’t see them happening with the current group running the show.
Sure why not, that should go ahead and kill off the last few people still raiding on the Alliance.
I don’t think the OP means it as a way to kill off Alliance raiding and to be honest if they were to only go with the first 150 guilds to clear mythic regardless of faction to open cross realm mythics it might actually benefit the Alliance.
Opening it up faster might actually increase the player pool for alliance .
Yeah, but there would never again be an Alliance guild in the Hall of Fame. Anyone interested in raiding competitively will switch to Horde, if they haven’t already.
And that would be on them as players to make that choice but what about those that don’t competitively raid and would like to do mythic raids but the pool on their server is not big enough . Opening cross realm mythics sooner would help average Joe gamer . Which is the majority of the player base.
Worrying about the 1% competitive raiding crowd let by Captain Esport should be a lesser concern .
Yes but people are sheep, and Joe Gamer is glued to his computer screen watching the 1% on Twitch. Where the competitive raiding crowd goes, so will go all the average people that follow them. That’s exactly why we’re in the situation we’re in now. Minor racial advantages led the bleeding edge raiders to the Horde, and everyone else followed.
The only solution is to take down the faction barrier for trade and grouping. Then it can be faction agnostic Hall of Fame, because the top 150 guilds can be composed of whoever wants to play together instead of an artificially separated playerbase.
To be honest most average players could care less about watching someone on twitch playing the game . We want to be in the game enjoying it.
This would be very damaging to the alliance OP
That literally defeats the purpose of the HOF lmao.
Is not artificial is the design of the game from the base.
Design can change. And in this case should.
And it is artificial, because in the story there’s no reason why Alliance and Horde mercenaries and heroes would not be working together when every other part of the game shows them doing so constantly.
Nah it shouldn’t.
It doesn’t really, some parts of the game have us working together but the explicit parts are actually far in between.
While I agree that x-realm mythic should be opened sooner, one of the points of the Hall of Fame in the first place was to try to get more people to raid on Alliance to balance out the factions on the high end. X-realm should just open for Horde as soon as their Hall of Fame is closed.
Nah, leave it exactly as it is. Harder for Blizzard to ignore that way.
-Every neutral group in the game consists of races from both factions.
-Every end of expansion raid since BC has been either explicitly a joint effort or in cooperation with one of these neutral groups, which amounts to the same thing.
-The vast majority of the story has been faction agnostic and driven by neutral groups that don’t care whether we’re red or blue because there’s bigger problems.
You feel that way because you are in a rush for it to end.
That is frankly pretty selfish, and obviously poorly designed from the gate.
I do not think the Hall of Fame should change, because it is the only real incentive to help Alliance catch up to Horde in terms of competitive play.
I’m surprised more guilds haven’t swapped frankly.
But if there was just a set date that Cross realm Mythic opened this wouldn’t be being talked about at all right?
I for one think the solution is either no Cross realm mythic or make guilds cross realm.
I can’t stand cross realm mythic because we have had a LOT of people who come and fill spots at the end of the tier that have zero intention of ever joining the social community I have built, and that hurts guilds as much as anything.
If Hall of Fame’s main objective was to try and help balance factions, then it is a major failure. Other factors, specifically recruitment, weigh much more in the balance. Out of the 4 US Alliance guilds to have killed N’zoth at this point, at least 2 are switching to Horde for Shadowlands.
The situation was already out of hand in Legion. It has only worsened since.