11/08/2018 02:50 AMPosted by
Razzat
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Ok so much to talk about. So.
1) First and foremost I m sorry the way they treated you. It was really unecessary.
2) There s nothing wrong with being an ERPyer unless you re doing it in public chat or being disrespectful there s no reason anyone normal would care. It s the same principle as sex in real life. If both parties can and are consenting and you re not hurting anyone then it s your business only.
3) You should know people would get the wrong idea. You being a guy, rpying a sexualized female on Moonguard, so...get your thick skin on there cause this will not be the last time someone misjudges you.
4) What you can do is find a more accepting guild. Cause seriously. If a guild has that "No erp here" rule chances are I m not gonna join. Not cause I m a huuuge erpyer but because I know that if a gm wants to control what I do in my privacy chances are they will be the first ones pointing fingers at me trying to dictate how my character should act or think or dress or behave, I had enough bad experiences with guilds lile that to see this pattern.
Well I must confess(though many figured it out already). I actually did create this character for ERP purposes. What I can say? Being able enjoy beautiful booty while playing he game makes it so much more enjoyable. Least I am trying to take it to a much better quality level than most ERPers though. Gotta admit this makes a pretty nice skimpy mog for one.
And gold shire moon guard is actually pretty fun. Its quite an enjoyable party out there frankly. You don't have to ERP out there to enjoy it. Many people go out there and don't ERP, but other forms of RP.
Nothing wrong with that. I'm on Wyrmrest Accord and rpying on Horde mostly, but even if I where at Moonguard on the Alliance, Goldshire isn't my thing.
But if your character is skimpy or erp oriented, it isn't anyone else's problem but yours and whoever wants to erp with you.
I have a line of tought that. As long as people keep it private I couldn't care less, after all people have every right not to want to read sex chat in public (and there's minor playing the game too).
Now the skimpy mog, ICly people WILL judge a lot depending on the circunstances, like if you enter the Cathedral on Stormwind like that chances are you're not gonna be well received.
I think the only female character I have is a female lightforged draenei paladin who wears plate armor and shows no skin whatsoever mostly cause I made her to be this veteran soldier who spent centuries fighting demons on Argus, so it would be very stupid to have her walk around in skimpy clothing. At the end of the day the only one who has any right to dictate what your character should or shouldn't do is you.
Now the skimpy mog, ICly people WILL judge a lot depending on the circunstances, like if you enter the Cathedral on Stormwind like that chances are you're not gonna be well received.
Oh no. I wouldn't knowingly go over there if RP was being held. I wouldn't want my presence to be perceived as trolling. That being said. Apart of me did roll this character partly cause I knew it would trigger some people like that said guild. I also know that when it comes to PvP, some people hate getting killed by someone in a skimpy mog extra.
What happened
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Recently I decided to boost this character so I could join my friends in MG for a bit of RP. There is a lot of stigma surrounding guys who play as female characters and I just so happen to be a guy irl who playing a female character alliance side on moon guard for RP purposes. I ran into a problem recently with my horde side raiding guild. When they found out about this character they accused me of being an ERPer. I was shamed in the discord and then booted from the guild. Now this character wasn't created for ERP purposes. The clothing style just fits in with the RP backstory of the character. She uses her seductive looks to distract potential enemies.
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My question
Now I want to know from other guys who play as female characters how often you've run into problems when people find out that you are a guy playing a female character. Same goes with people who play on Moonguard; Especially those in skimpy mogs? How likely is this to be a problem for me in the future?
... are you telling us not a single male in that guild plays a female character? That's truly a rare thing if true.
Wait a minute. You aren't a female gnome irl and also taken*breaks out in tears*
::awkward back pats::
There, there... I'm sure this must be a very startling revelation. I know you had immediately developed dreams of our future based on a completely fictitious representation, but it'll... er... be ok?
::ahem::
Sorry?
Now the skimpy mog, ICly people WILL judge a lot depending on the circunstances, like if you enter the Cathedral on Stormwind like that chances are you're not gonna be well received.
Oh no. I wouldn't knowingly go over there if RP was being held. I wouldn't want my presence to be perceived as trolling. That being said. Apart of me did roll this character partly cause I knew it would trigger some people like that said guild. I also know that when it comes to PvP, some people hate getting killed by someone in a skimpy mog extra.
What you can do is try and find a guild who's ok with sexualized characters. And on Moonguard there might be a lot of those.
All you have to do is being mindfull on what kind of rp you're getting yourself into. And for people who think only Goldshire has crazy sexual stuff oohhh boy...you never tried to walk on Silvermoon on WA at night probably.
Last I went there with my orc blademaster, a random female elf whisped me asking if I wanted to rp my orc having "nonconsensual" sex with her character...after that I was like "I need an adult to come here. And I'm nearly 30 freaking years old! X_X"
So yeah, crazy stuff are not focused on Goldshire alone, not by a long shot.
11/08/2018 03:24 AMPosted by
Havatsi
Wait a minute. You aren't a female gnome irl and also taken*breaks out in tears*
::awkward back pats::
There, there... I'm sure this must be a very startling revelation. I know you had immediately developed dreams of our future based on a completely fictitious representation, but it'll... er... be ok?
::ahem::
Sorry?
I'll be fine. I just eh. Need to go lie down for a bit while I process this shocking reality. *_-
11/07/2018 05:03 PMPosted by
Daft
This is a new and unique thread.
i would say "That's what she said" but i'm sure someone said That.
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Oh no. I wouldn't knowingly go over there if RP was being held. I wouldn't want my presence to be perceived as trolling. That being said. Apart of me did roll this character partly cause I knew it would trigger some people like that said guild. I also know that when it comes to PvP, some people hate getting killed by someone in a skimpy mog extra.
What you can do is try and find a guild who's ok with sexualized characters. And on Moonguard there might be a lot of those.
All you have to do is being mindfull on what kind of rp you're getting yourself into. And for people who think only Goldshire has crazy sexual stuff oohhh boy...you never tried to walk on Silvermoon on WA at night probably.
Last I went there with my orc blademaster, a random female elf whisped me asking if I wanted to rp my orc having "nonconsensual" sex with her character...after that I was like "I need an adult to come here. And I'm nearly 30 freaking years old! X_X"
So yeah, crazy stuff are not focused on Goldshire alone, not by a long shot.
30 years old? I am 28. Thats still young by some people's standards, but yea. I know I've had a lot of whispers on this character and many try to come up an ERP with me. However I am not trying to be some random doorknob either. Aside from the whole using seduction as a weapon thing my character is meant to be a pretty deadly assassin. Oh just curious. Does any of this ever happen on any of your male toons in RP realms?
11/07/2018 05:03 PMPosted by
Daft
This is a new and unique thread.
i would say "That's what she said" but i'm sure someone said That.
It might have even been a she who said it. Sheception. Or something.
11/08/2018 03:25 AMPosted by
Razzat
Last I went there with my orc blademaster, a random female elf whisped me asking if I wanted to rp my orc having "nonconsensual" sex with her character...after that I was like "I need an adult to come here. And I'm nearly 30 freaking years old! X_X"
Fun story:
I run an alt or two on Moonguard with some friends who enjoy RP. None of it is ERP, and we're all friends in real life (good lord, it'd probably be the most awkward thing, honestly!), but we've bumped into "that crowd" a few times.
Usually they're fairly respectful, ask if we want to join, and otherwise move on with their days.
I was playing a female dwarf hunter, who's backstory isn't much relevant. She was... let's say "propositioned"... by a rather buxom female draenei who didn't understand the concept of no.
A few minutes into the chat, as I tried to maneuver my way out of it, things got to the point of 'extreme' for me. I genuinely learned a few new words for acts I hadn't even thought of before. Suffice to say, I didn't know what to do, and this player wouldn't take no for an answer, so I just:
/e Mordalla smashes [character] over the head with her rifle. "Lass! Ye' almost 'ad me needin' an adult. AN ADULT! Dam' near 40, I am! Well 'ere's whut for ye. I am an adult, an' I sed NO!"
/e Mordalla storms off whispering under he breath. "A whut? Was' that even MEAN!?"
30 years old? I am 28. Thats still young by some people's standards, but yea. I know I've had a lot of whispers on this character and many try to come up an ERP with me. However I am not trying to be some random doorknob either. Aside from the whole using seduction as a weapon thing my character is meant to be a pretty deadly assassin. Oh just curious. Does any of this ever happen on any of your male toons in RP realms?
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29 actually, but 30 in like 5 months. With me I receive a lot of strange ERP whisps with this orc, I think mostly cause he is your typical big, musclebound, manly agressive looking orc, and there are people who kinda dig it.
What? Being kicked out of a guild for ERP? Never happened to me, I dunno if it's cause I play mostly males or that I'm not activaly looking for ERP, for me ERP is something that may or may not happen, not the main reason I rp.
11/08/2018 03:36 AMPosted by
Havatsi
Fun story:
I run an alt or two on Moonguard with some friends who enjoy RP. None of it is ERP, and we're all friends in real life (good lord, it'd probably be the most awkward thing, honestly!), but we've bumped into "that crowd" a few times.
Usually they're fairly respectful, ask if we want to join, and otherwise move on with their days.
I was playing a female dwarf hunter, who's backstory isn't much relevant. She was... let's say "propositioned"... by a rather buxom female draenei who didn't understand the concept of no.
A few minutes into the chat, as I tried to maneuver my way out of it, things got to the point of 'extreme' for me. I genuinely learned a few new words for acts I hadn't even thought of before. Suffice to say, I didn't know what to do, and this player wouldn't take no for an answer, so I just:
/e Mordalla smashes [character] over the head with her rifle. "Lass! Ye' almost 'ad me needin' an adult. AN ADULT! Dam' near 40, I am! Well 'ere's whut for ye. I am an adult, an' I sed NO!"
/e Mordalla storms off whispering under he breath. "A whut? Was' that even MEAN!?"
This one I mentioned actually tried to argue with me about it. Saying "Oh that's what orcs do". I was like. "Dude? This is not DnD where orcs casually take females by force, in here orcs would rather have their "things" cut off than do that in like 99,9999% of times!"
And like, even if orcs here where the monsters they are on DnD, I stabilished a long time ago that my orc thinks elves are as atractive as roaches, the last thing he would ever think when he sees an elf is "Hmm I want that".
Plus he's a veteran from the draenei wars who has been magically aged by the warlocks of his clan, he has lots of PTSD and a very heavy conscience, and I consider everything even ERP as part of the character and I'm not gonna ruin this character who's supposed to be seeking redemption just because she has a kink.
But at least she did took the no for an answer. =X
PS: Your dwarf's reaction was priceless XD And totally something a dwarf would do
11/08/2018 03:51 AMPosted by
Razzat
This one I mentioned actually tried to argue with me about it. Saying "Oh that's what orcs do". I was like. "Dude? This is not DnD where orcs casually take females by force, in here orcs would rather have their "things" cut off than do that in like 99,9999% of times!"
And like, even if orcs here where the monsters they are on DnD, I stabilished a long time ago that my orc thinks elves are as atractive as roaches, the last thing he would ever think when he sees an elf is "Hmm I want that".
Plus he's a veteran from the draenei wars who has been magically aged by the warlocks of his clan, he has lots of PTSD and a very heavy conscience, and I consider everything even ERP as part of the character and I'm not gonna ruin this character who's supposed to be seeking redemption just because she has a kink.
But at least she did took the no for an answer. =X
I always find it particularly difficult when someone is being uppity about my RP not following their idea of RP. Particularly when they're using non-standard ideas like "Orcs obviously take what they want." (Or "Dwarf ladies are all about it!")
I had one person argue with me about why my dwarf drank ale but not wine. They figured dwarves just like all sorts of booze. I argued that everyone has a preference, and Mordalla simply finds wines too "sweet". Somehow this offended their sensibilities about dwarves, because they decided to start a survey at the bar about whether dwarves drink wine or not. Er... what?
I must say I'm a sucker for a 'tragic' character sometimes. The path to redemption, and the whole tortured soul bit can really be a delicious thing to play out. I have to hold myself from it too much, though, or all my characters end up that way over time!
11/08/2018 04:00 AMPosted by
Razzat
PS: Your dwarf's reaction was priceless XD And totally something a dwarf would do
I didn't know what to do, so I did something funny, effective, and exceedingly clear! Just seemed appropriate. "This tall beastie is causing problems, and I have a long metal object I can smack it with to solve those problems!"
I wouldn't want my presence to be perceived as trolling. That being said. Apart of me did roll this character partly cause I knew it would trigger some people...
You know that doing a thing purely because you expect, and intend, to upset people is pretty much the definition of "trolling", right?
You trolled. You got a response. Namely, /gkicked. I fail to see a problem with people you tried to upset not wanting to be around you.
How is any of that their fault, when you set out to do it?
Hi OP, I demand you give me your phone number so I can have my God given right to know whether your sexual organs are on the inside or outside!
What...you don't want to? Why not?
Do you guys not have phones??
I wouldn't want my presence to be perceived as trolling. That being said. Apart of me did roll this character partly cause I knew it would trigger some people...
You know that doing a thing purely because you expect, and intend, to upset people is pretty much the definition of "trolling", right?
You trolled. You got a response. Namely, /gkicked. I fail to see a problem with people you tried to upset not wanting to be around you.
How is any of that their fault, when you set out to do it?
Those guys didn't have a problem with skimpy mogs which is specifically what I was referring to, but rather dudes who ERP. Don't know what their stances is on RL females doing this. Its pretty much the same though as those people who roll gnomes in plate armor knowing it will trigger a lot of people when they get killed by a small gnome warrior. But in the end things can be perceived and looked at different ways. What might seem upsetting to one would be delightful to another.
Hi OP, I demand you give me your phone number so I can have my God given right to know whether your sexual organs are on the inside or outside!
What...you don't want to? Why not?
Do you guys not have phones??
Well I barely know you sooo.....
What happened
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Recently I decided to boost this character so I could join my friends in MG for a bit of RP. There is a lot of stigma surrounding guys who play as female characters and I just so happen to be a guy irl who playing a female character alliance side on moon guard for RP purposes. I ran into a problem recently with my horde side raiding guild. When they found out about this character they accused me of being an ERPer. I was shamed in the discord and then booted from the guild. Now this character wasn't created for ERP purposes. The clothing style just fits in with the RP backstory of the character. She uses her seductive looks to distract potential enemies.
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My question
Now I want to know from other guys who play as female characters how often you've run into problems when people find out that you are a guy playing a female character. Same goes with people who play on Moonguard; Especially those in skimpy mogs? How likely is this to be a problem for me in the future?
I think playing a female character is not too bad, but playing one on Moonguard is a whole different monster. Moonguard scares me
I was being sarcastic Lucindianna, but listen I don't take Moon Guard seriously, when I used to go to that inn in Goldshire, I was reasonably confident that every single person I talked to was just a dude in real life.
I always find it particularly difficult when someone is being uppity about my RP not following their idea of RP. Particularly when they're using non-standard ideas like "Orcs obviously take what they want." (Or "Dwarf ladies are all about it!")
I had one person argue with me about why my dwarf drank ale but not wine. They figured dwarves just like all sorts of booze. I argued that everyone has a preference, and Mordalla simply finds wines too "sweet". Somehow this offended their sensibilities about dwarves, because they decided to start a survey at the bar about whether dwarves drink wine or not. Er... what?
I must say I'm a sucker for a 'tragic' character sometimes. The path to redemption, and the whole tortured soul bit can really be a delicious thing to play out. I have to hold myself from it too much, though, or all my characters end up that way over time!
Yeah have to admit most of my characters have some tragic background, but they don't mope or brood about it constantly but they are usually a way to explain why they act the way they act or what drives them.
I have to admit I saw a lot of crazy people trying to be "rp police" on me, like saying I'm being "anti rp" cause my goblin refused an obviously crazy deal, cause if there's gold goblins are obligated to accept right?
Like, no, they would never have build Kezan if they didn't know how to back down from bad deals.
There was this one saying my orc SHOULD just "take her" cause...orcs. Like she probably didn't even read about orcs on WoW.
And I don't doubt some Goblin Slayer fan would propose the same thing to my goblins >.>"
I’m a woman. I love this guy. He is my character whom I have brought to life. A canon of his own, family, friends, ambitions, etc.
There’s the RP side, and there’s also the fact I wanted a male character to mog since I was getting bored of all my female ones.
Assuming anything about the person behind the screen based off your game toon is ridiculous. WoW is an RPG.
A significant number of my characters are female. Mostly bc of aesthetics, what I find amusing or think looks cool. I just assume all player characters are played by guys until I hear them in voice chat.