My alt is a female Nightborne because this male version looks like he's melting.
11/07/2018 05:10 PMPosted by
Nobully
There is a lot of stigma surrounding guys who play as female characters
uh really?
is this actually a thing?
why would there be any stigma?
what's wrong with not wanting to stare at a male butt for hours?
I see this argument alllll the time but it never makes sense to me, am I legit the only one who doesn't stare at my character's !@# while I play? I couldn't care less if someone wants to play a female character or not, but this argument has always stuck out as being a copout instead of just saying "I play female characters because I like to".
Just how many horde races do you think are vulnerable to the "Goldshire town wench with eyepatch" style of seduction?
my DH and paladin is a female because I hate the blood elf male models and animations (made the paladin before taurens could be paladins)
anytime I have made a human I end up making a female because I hate the way human males run (looks like they are doing a bad running man impression)
aside from that I stick to males...
it should be noted that if I ever felt the need to have a troll it would also be female because I am not a fan of the male troll animations
11/09/2018 07:02 AMPosted by
Alisiaa
Just how many horde races do you think are vulnerable to the "Goldshire town wench with eyepatch" style of seduction?
Judging by all the horde races stopping by gold shire. All of them apparently ^^
11/09/2018 07:08 AMPosted by
Kibo
my DH and paladin is a female because I hate the blood elf male models and animations (made the paladin before taurens could be paladins)
anytime I have made a human I end up making a female because I hate the way human males run (looks like they are doing a bad running man impression)
aside from that I stick to males...
it should be noted that if I ever felt the need to have a troll it would also be female because I am not a fan of the male troll animations
This is really a very good reason. Male characters tend to be too big and bulky and hang up on every single corner coming and going (which is why my husband changed his tauren hunter to an undead as soon as they became available) and many of the males characters have horrible animations (barring Trolls, they're AWESOME).
The female's in this game (barring tauren women, we hang up on the slightest breeze as well), have lovely, flowing animations. They're smaller and easier to manipulate around everything. It's not easy following behind a larger character with bad animations. It's just a personal thing.
Now I want to know from other guys who play as female characters how often you've run into problems when people find out that you are a guy playing a female character.
Never. Probably because I play the game with Adults and don't play for any sexual aspect.
Yeah, I play MG Horde side and I've never come across any form of this, in raid or otherwise. Either there's more to the story, the people you were raiding with are idiots, or you're not being entirely truthful.
On a side note, most of my characters are male, as am I in real life. I have a few female characters, but have never been chastised for any of them.
11/09/2018 07:08 AMPosted by
Kibo
my DH and paladin is a female because I hate the blood elf male models and animations (made the paladin before taurens could be paladins)
anytime I have made a human I end up making a female because I hate the way human males run (looks like they are doing a bad running man impression)
aside from that I stick to males...
it should be noted that if I ever felt the need to have a troll it would also be female because I am not a fan of the male troll animations
This is really a very good reason. Male characters tend to be too big and bulky and hang up on every single corner coming and going (which is why my husband changed his tauren hunter to an undead as soon as they became available) and many of the males characters have horrible animations (barring Trolls, they're AWESOME).
The female's in this game (barring tauren women, we hang up on the slightest breeze as well), have lovely, flowing animations. They're smaller and easier to manipulate around everything. It's not easy following behind a larger character with bad animations. It's just a personal thing.
For me as well, I can't stand hunched backs, it just aggravates me. In addition, I kinda dislike playing any clothy on a large model, as I always feel like I should be less squishy than I am. That effects draenei more than anything but somewhat related...
What happened
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Recently I decided to boost this character so I could join my friends in MG for a bit of RP. There is a lot of stigma surrounding guys who play as female characters and I just so happen to be a guy irl who playing a female character alliance side on moon guard for RP purposes. I ran into a problem recently with my horde side raiding guild. When they found out about this character they accused me of being an ERPer. I was shamed in the discord and then booted from the guild. Now this character wasn't created for ERP purposes. The clothing style just fits in with the RP backstory of the character. She uses her seductive looks to distract potential enemies.
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My question
Now I want to know from other guys who play as female characters how often you've run into problems when people find out that you are a guy playing a female character. Same goes with people who play on Moonguard; Especially those in skimpy mogs? How likely is this to be a problem for me in the future?
My partner is an artist in training, do not mind if he use your character for a comic project featuring a secret Uncrowned Meeting?
We need to recruit one more Rogue who is "
THICC!" enough to do the job.
11/09/2018 05:30 AMPosted by
Razzat
Don't you love the double standard here? It's ok for woman to play males but males playing as females? Outrage!
It would be a double-standard, except for how things have played out over, oh, the last six thousand years.
For most of that time, women have been sequestered, barred from participation in governance, married off for the benefit of male relatives, unable to own or manage their own property or business, and disallowed to vote. More, they were blamed for the existence of evil (not just in Judeo-Christian scripture, either - the myth of Pandora carries exactly the same blame), and thus subjugated by religious authorities.
Here in the states, women have been allowed to vote for less than 100 years. A woman could not secure a line of credit in her own name until 1974.
Moreover, it was (and in many places still is) incumbent upon women to make themselves attractive for male appreciation. Tremendous social pressure existed to meet arbitrary standards of beauty, to a degree men find it difficult to imagine. Many of those standards were contradictory.
For example, a woman should be modest. Or sexy. If she isn't sexy enough, she's a prude. If not modest enough, she's a !@#$%. That's the double standard at play here.
And it's for that reason that a woman playing a female toon - or, for that matter a male one - whether dressed revealingly or not, is making different choices, from a different experience, and for different reasons, than a man playing a female toon and dressing that toon to please himself - particularly when what pleases him eroticises the model.
Men have different issues, but meeting arbitrary and contradictory standards of appearance for the benefit of women simply is not one of them. I imagine most women playing male toons do so, not to eroticize the content (good luck doing that with WoW's male game models, anyway) but to avoid harassment, or, more likely still, because it suits their notion of who that character is.
I'd leave out all this history stuff, because it's a game. Except that it's a story game, set in a fantasy world made up from other stories, inspired by a nostalgic view of history. And played by people, who are shaped by the forces of real history.
So a man playing a sexualized female toon is in fact doing something different from a man or a woman simply playing a character who is female or male, or an orc, or a wizard, or something else that she or he isn't in real life. And that difference is real, and it matters.
Dude don't even start with that crap. I'm talking about people being able to play a VIDEO GAME with whatever the hell avatar they want, real life injustices are not even close to get in the subject.
This topic is about the OP being kicked out of a guild for being a guy playing a female character, period. Don't even start with that preaching cause it's not relevant to what the discussion is, and I suggest you READ THE MESSAGE I WAS RESPONDING TO before starting to preach the choir thinking I'm some kind of sexist a-hole.
If you wanna talk about opression towards women, create a topic for it, don't bring it to where it has nothing to do with it. No one here is talking about real life injustices women go trough because that's not the subject. Stick to the original subject or leave.
Just some super sexually confused males that struggle with insecurities that tend to spout off that alpha beta nonsense.
I'm a dude, I've always been straight forward about it when people ask if I was male or female. It's like some people never actually grew up and it comes down to that old "only girls wear pink" and all that other childish stuff.
I could see a pink shirt that says I'm into dudes and if it's comfortable I'd totally wear it and not give a single F as a straight guy.
Unfortunately, so many people now care so much what random strangers think of them and get all bent out of shape or attempt to demean you in some way for a perceived slight against their beliefs.
I'm here to play some games and if I wanna make a chick for their swing/cast animations, figure, movement or visual appeal armor or otherwise I'll just go ahead and do it.
Couldn't agree more. This alpha, beta crap is not true even with wolves. The very same scientist who created the term alpha and beta wolf debuked his own work saying he was wrong.
And somehow some insecure idiots think that this is not only true but it applies to human beings. It's a way to manipulate insecure guys into acting a certain way and demonize certain behaviors.
XD The funniest part is them trying to say "All woman like alpha males" cause god forbid women having you know...different tastes, prefferences, perspectives and standards like anyone else.
I honestly pity people who preach this nonsense.
I just so happen to be a guy irl who playing a female character alliance side on moon guard for RP purposes.
0/10
You killed this trolling attempt by giving away tmi.
On the bright side, I lol'd when I read the above quoted portion.
I have never ran into problems playing female toons, even with the small few that did ask out of curiousity. They just shrugged it off and we continued talking like normal. Hell, even tried to purposely sloot-out 2 of my toons (this one I'm posting on being one of them) expecting to get questioned and it rarely happens. I'd even roam into GS and inquiries were still far and few.
I guess I'm just usually around people who really don't care... or thinks I'm a convincing female.
Like the OP, I mog my toons based on their personality or some other practical reason, and even write it up in their MRP.
Never run into any real problems but then again not on Moonguard and I've rarely ever gone full slutmog for a female character but I rarely feels it fits a female character I've played.
I know lots of guys that play as girls and lots of girls that play as guys. It is never a big deal, ever. They are just characters in a video game.
Maybe you erp, maybe you don't, maybe you just like the way the character looks dressed like that. It's your character dress it how you want.
If you get dumped from a guild a group because someone doesn't like the character you play for whatever reason, you need to find better people.
my original vanilla toon was a male night elf hunter, at the beginning i felt im a guy so i gotta play male toons and this is my first and only MMO ive played so i didnt know any better or even worse.
i quickly regretted my decision. i dont like the snarl he had, i dont like the long pointy ears... everything looked different from behind. You create your toon looking at his front side than once you start you rarely ever see that side again.
next toon i made was a female human. much better.
if im gonna spend hours, days, weeks,months.. even YEARS of my life staring at colored pixels from behind, i want them to be as close to what i like as possible.
so now almost all of my toons are female with the exception of my original vanilla toon.. he is now a Horde Male Orc, just cause he looks badda55.
How likely is this to be a problem for me in the future?
this is literally only a problem if you yourself go out of your way to make it a problem.