I wouldn’t worry about it. Classic will have its niche. The success of classic will be of itself many people wanting classic what just that. They don’t want classic with expansions, or classic plus. They want classic in its good old vanilla state. Blizzard trying to create off classic or expand on classic would actually hurt the concept of classic because the “classic” crew isn’t looking for that. Not only that for them to expand on classic means all the store transactions etc would be moved into classic and beyond which would be a nail in the coffin for many interested in that time frame of the game. So the idea of blizzard abandoning current to go back and recreated a whole new concept off of classic wouldn’t be beneficial for them.
“There’s no flying mounts and there’s no transmog and thats basically all I play the game for.”
Amazing. I’ve only been gone a few years and the sorry state I left wow in has come to…well, whatever the hell that statement was.
You should be worried about retail wow. It’s followed in the same footsteps as all triple A gaming. Classic wow was an unprecedented success, BC held true and was probably harder in many respects, Wrath was the peak of WoW. Cata was…something, and MoP was fairly well made, but cheesy. WoD ripped the community apart and legion was more of the same. The sheer fact that you say you only play WoW for the flying mounts and transmog shows how horribly this game has evolved under Activision’s garbage corporate pandering.
You wanna know why classic is so interesting in beta? Because it was a good game driven by people. Drag more people into it, more people will come. It’s practically a money echo chamber. Yet, activison found a way to sabotage their own income over the past 10 years.
Yeah, be worried about retail, because any game that has to bank on flying mounts and dress up is not going to make it far. Not that Activision would know the first thing about what makes a good game.
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They won’t, because players will get tired of it. You hit “stagnation” walls, since everyone can’t be in a raid guild, fielding 40 players, which can do the best content.
it is a limited thing, by definition. Only a few people will manage to stick it out.
I know from experience, because I was one of the people who got very bored with “vanilla.” I could not be in a raiding guild, with my life schedule. there was nothing else to do, but stagnate. So I was never going to log into Wow again, then got the Burning Crusade beta invite. It totally fixed Wow for me, so I played that up until it released and maybe only logged into “vanilla” one time to sort of prep for BC.
Future “Classic” variations of Wow depend on the success of “THIS” “Classic.”
Even at its very worst, BFA is a million times better than Vanilla Wow. I can actually log in, do stuff and get gear upgrades; In Vanilla I needed 40 other people doing a thing with me, in order to do that, then 3 things dropped and the kids who could make every raid bought them with their DKP.
Worrying intensifies.
So BFA is better than classic because classic isn’t out yet? Lmao
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There has been an argument that Blizz will pursue a model of two different playerbases.
The first playerbase will be the Classic playerbase. In that playerbase, you have all the players that like the fiddly RPG elements and don’t mind (even quite like) that it was a slower-paced game.
The second playerbase will be the Retail playerbase. In that playerbase, you have all the players that like modern QoL improvements, better graphics and a game in which content is not only fast-paced, but consumed quickly too.
The problem with this, is that Blizz may no longer care about bringing the two sides together. In other words, Retail may become EVEN MORE RETAIL-LIKE than it is at the moment, because in their minds all those other players are in Classic and no longer interested in Retail. In other words, classes become even more pared-down, bosses become much more about twitch mechanics than preparation, and content is blasted through at a record pace.
In other words, you have two versions of the game that continue to become less and less like each other over time.
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The same dude who destroyed Firefall.
Why anyone gives this guy any substance, I’ll never understand.
Current WoW has turned into World of Cosmetics. If that’s the game you like, that’s ok because it’s not going anywhere. Maybe they will learn what made Classic great and incorporate it into World of Cosmetics.
However, the people who like Classic simply like World of Warcraft. They don’t play it for cosmetics.
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What a dismissive way to devalue the reason why people like classic more than modern WoW.
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That’s an interesting theory. I believe Ion said in a recent interview that they would consider taking popular elements from classic and looking for ways to incorporate them into retail, which shoots that theory in the foot.
There’s a chance they could completely reverse course from that statement. It wouldn’t be the first time. Either way, I’m not terribly worried. Once the game stops being fun for me, I’m done.
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And at least everyone I know are all saying “what the hell is with all the twitch streamers playing Classic? we want real content back”. So I think it’s just the newest thing.
Even a few of the players I know who were really excited to play Classic tried the beta and went: “oh… this is how it was? Uh… … … …” A few aren’t so sure they want to play it anymore.
I see your point but I think you are overreacting a bit.
The reason you are seeing so much more activity on Twitch with classic wow is because it’s highly anticipated. The beta opened, a release date has been slated, and we are currently in the age of marketing nostalgia. BfA has already gotten through 8.1.5 and we don’t really know when 8.2 will drop and so there isn’t currently much to hype about it. I’m sure when 8.2 approaches it’ll retake some of the spotlight.
I am sort of excited for classic but given that I played since Vanilla when MC was still the main meta game raid, there are lots of features that I’m not super excited to revisit because I was glad Bliz did away with them (Druids and Paladins basically only being useful as bench buffers/rezzers in raids, needing to collect elemental resist gear, mounts taking forever to get, Priests and warriors being downright painful to level, etc.).
Again this is a nostalgia stunt and classic is gonna drop in a couple months, so that is taking the spotlight while WoW gets to take a breather until the next major patch drops.
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Another thing to look forward to with Classic is that, if it succeeds, it will prove that the game isn’t dying a natural death.
If Classic is successful it will show that there is still interest in the game and in this genre. I hope that Classic’s success will prove to Blizzard that what they are doing is ruining this game, and that it isn’t just a natural decline of a game that’s as old as it is.
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I disagree with your entire point of view.
From a business perspective, it doesn’t matter to Blizzard, because either way they stand to gain and not lose; either way people are buyings their games.
From the consumer’s point of view, it’s almost undeniable that Classic WoW was better than retail WoW as a video game. Sure Classic had less features, but the core gameplay was far more gratifying. You can like BfA’s flying and transmog all you want (although flying might as well not exist at this point), but if the gameplay is bland and there’s no character progression, the game’s bad, and BfA is bad.
As a consumer, you can only stand to gain by Blizzard LITERALLY having the best of both worlds. Besides, maybe they can learn from both projects, and make both versions of WoW better.
Blizzard will kick back eventually once they get rid of those who been polluting this franchise. Once everyone in that office jumps the ship. Restoration begins, but will be a slow process. I’ll stay til the end with WoW out of respect for bringing in awesome races and other cool cosmetics. I just wish their focus didn’t get corrupted.
And yet all mounts and max ilvl gear is not available in the store yet… that is model to folow.
I only like wq… but need more speed!!!
I really don’t care, if you don’t like Classic then don’t play it no one is forcing you to play it and no one cares if you don’t. If you are really having “FUN” with Retail then keep playing Retail again no one really cares, that’s on you.
If Classic does better than Retail then that’s just that, that means it’s just better period.
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If you’ve noticed something, it is this:
The beta, of Classic, is not during the “Worst part of Classic” yet.
It has only covered the “messing around” part of Classic.
If the beta was at a level 60 point, with people raiding, people would see what that was actually like.
Did they “grow up” in 6 months? Therewas a huge influx of players at the start og the expansion and all left again because the game is trash… And guess where they are going next? Thats right… Classic WoW.