According to Gul’dan’s “Harbingers” video, no one living has ever heard of the village of his birth.
Gul’dan’s flashbacks also show the village was located on a desert, likely Gorgrond.
Meanwhile, the Flowerpicker Clan is an Orcish Clan that was only named in the WC2 files and never mentioned in-game or in any lore books.
Since they are never mentioned, the Flowerpicker clan is a clan that no one in-universe has ever heard of.
Now, considering the fact that Gorgrond is home to Draenor’s most dangerous and #SAVAGE flowers and flower people, that’s the most likely location of an Orcish Clan named after picking flowers.
So it makes sense that Gul’dan’s clan is actually the Flowerpicker Clan.
You should amend this to AU Gul’dan. Main Universe Gul’dan was from the Shadowmoon Clan as an apprentice to Ner’zhul then eventually made his own clan, the Stormreaver Clan.
Nope. According to Chronicle Gul’dan was born in a clan from Gorgrond.
After becoming a Warlock, he moved to Shadowmoon and infiltrated the Shadowmoon Clan to corrupt it from the inside. The Shadowmoon Clan took pity on him and accepted him as an apprentice.
Well Chronicles is here to retcon everything I guess. I just read about the absolute insane stuff they did with the Twilight’s Hammer clan too, and they basically made AU WoD stuff cannon.
I don’t know. At this point Draenor lore is our lore and not AU lore and at the same time “we didn’t travel back in time hurr durr” and it’s all inconsistent and an absolute terrible, awful mess.
Even more frustrating is it invalidates entire novels, like Rise of the Horde, where Gul’dan is VERY CLEARLY NOT a Warlock yet, and is, in fact, part of the Shadowmoon Clan already. He was just power hungry so when Ner’zhul turned down Kil’jaedin, Gul’dan took KJ up on his offer and THAT’S when he became a Warlock FFS.
Pretty sure they intended to go into the clan further in WoD but it got cut along with everything else and now all thats left is the one flower treasure next to the dying orc in talador.
Gul’dan upon joining the Shadowmoon Clan posed as a Shaman and since the Orcs in Rise of the Horde itself mistook the Warlocks for Shaman obviously Gul’dan was able to fool Ner’zhul!
It was convenient that that Rulkan died allowing Gul’dan to provide an opportunity for Kil’jaeden to pose as her to Ner’zhul. Her dying happened before the Legion showed up too.
Why AU Rulkan lived longer is unknown though considering an Infinite Dragon was able to increase her power by killing AU versions of herself it is likely AU Rulkan gained power and increased Lifespan from her MU self’s death.
That’s blatantly false though. They were diametrically opposed. The Orcs didn’t think they Warlocks were Shaman. They Warlocks were literally like “Shaman powers are stupid and lame, look at these sweet new powers we got that are way better” and eventually the elementals just stopped listening and responding to the Shaman so their power quit altogether, in the middle of a battle, iirc, so they were sort of forced to become Warlocks… At least, according to Rise of the Horde.
That’s what I’m saying, Gul’dan from the get go wasn’t trying to trick people, he was like “This power is better than Shamanism and isn’t fickle, it always works so you don’t need to agree with anything to make it work all the time.” He was brazenly Warlock the entire time and denounced Shamanism as weak…
He was brazenly Warlock once Ner’zhul discovered Kil’jaeden’s deception. Kil’jaeden at that point told him to dispense with the lies now that he had due to Ner’zhul seeing through them.
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