I personally think the first 5-6 are doable, xanesh probably not because it actually requires near perfect game play on the tank moving from torments etc. and individual play with soccer.
Hivemind and Shadâhar definitely. But thatâs mostly due to how easy it is to get gear, plus how strong Corruptions are.
I think in a normal tier, Shadâhar wouldnât be possible for PuGâs, but Hivemind might. (Weâre talking actual PuGâs, not a Mythic Guild looking for a pug or two to fill out an alt run).
Consistently boss #4 and #5 are huge steps up from the first three. In Uldir, you had the joke bosses of MOTHER and Taloc, and then Zekâvoz was pretty easy. In BoD you had Paladin, Monk/Mage and Grong, in TEP you had Sevara, Fish Boss and Radiance.
Hey, I think thatâs really cool. I know some people say you are bragging or whatever, but I like it when people share. I call it sharing, tbh.
In my case, I started on a server with a few friends who have since then quit. When I was a kid I played sports a ton and loved themâa mix of individual and team sports. I would brag about some of my sports achievements, but wont say too much, but in one case I achieved a very high level, competing at the national level. I also coached sports years ago, and was a teacher for a number of years.
As for this game, it has a fair number of frustrating aspects to it that are due to the impatience of others. A lot of people these days seem to have a very short attention span and time frame for everything and want everything now. A lot dont know the complexity involved in stats like hps and dps and it is very frustrating. Plus, they think, as someone here said, you are a commodity.
Why do you assume that? Just because gearing is a major part of the game doesnt mean you quit when you are uber geared at all. Frankly, I think, that is when the real fun STARTS. Lmao. You put a lot into thinking up that response didnt you?
Iâm still waiting for you to create your own guild since all other guilds are obviously âwrongâ. With the time you spent on this forum posting in this thread Iâm sure you could have gotten something going. 
I thought someone figured out you had average parses, wouldnât say you mastered the game
I love how this sorry excuse for a wow player attempts to say they have mastered every video game.
But you are so far from mastering wow itâs not even funny.
Do you push 28-29 keys? Nope. Oh you are a hall of fame raider? Nope again, 3/12m. Oh you have all the achievements in game? Nope. Oh maybe you parse really well? Nope again
You are the type of human that make people re-think playing this game. I know that sounds absolutely ridiculous and counter intuitive as its rude, but wowzers you are a handful.
Unfortunately, until you realize how your toxic better than thou, I deserve loot, I deserve this, I deserve that attitude changes you will be removed from every single guild you join. You will forever be stuck in a position of bottom of the barrel due to your poor attitude and unwillingness to change and play for the team
At this point, i canât help but conclude that even these people you say âwhisperingâ you arent just imaginary. Because I cant fathom anyone that would want to, or could even actually sustain a real conversation with you.
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Oh, another addition to my ignore list. All in good faith. Thanks for commenting.
You might as well call this monologue by Fluffyclucks at this point xd
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Oh, another one. Thanks for commenting. Good bye.
Oh noes guess Iâll have to bring more popcorn to this thread.
Yup, you make great points. Thanks for your contribution to this thread. There are lots who have a bunch of characters on a dead, or half dead server. I am in this boat, and quite frankly, I would love to move, but want the AH mount, which has a pretty hefty price tag. Hence, I wont be moving my main profession toons, and will simply start a cast of new toons on a high pop server come Shadowlands. That should mean more guild opportunities.
Amusing thread by Fluffyclucks who didnât understand the concept of GCD a while ago.
I donât understand the mentality of people that play for gear - itâs all going to be outdated within 6 months or something. (Whenever the next tier comes out.)
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Are you not doing the same thing that you are saying is wrong? If Blizzard is the only entity that can determine that, are you not wrong as well?
There is oneâŚactually there are a couple. Click on your portrait, then your name go to preferences then click on users - type in the person you feel you need to ignore, type it in and choose from 1 day to 6 months and there you go. They will be removed from ignore after 6 months. You can also mute ppl on that page too and I think that is an indefinite feature.
I personally have never allowed anything anyone says to get to me to the point I have to use the features but to each their own. Everyoneâs tolerance threshold is different. /shrug
You can also mute an entire thread either from clicking on the bell next to the comments on the right, or down at the bottom under where you can flag, reply etc.
All of this information is given to you on the Welcome Page of the forums, but some ppl choose to not read those. /shrug
I agree that the Mythic Raid Raid ID lockout system needs to DIAF. It literally only exists to arbitrarily prop up the concept of a Guild being ârequiredâ to do harder organized content. But, realistically, itâs NOT required. Blizzard is just afraid to say that, so theyâre holding on to this archaic lockout system.
Get rid of it.
People who want ORGANIZED raiding will still join the Guilds to be part of the team. Guilds still function as tighter knit social cells regardless. And thatâs all they really need to be. Forcing Guilds as a form of pseudo-content isnât okay.
As for your issues finding a Guild you want to be a part of: Thatâs normal. Millions of people playing the game and youâre jumping into a group of 20 or so and finding itâs not for you. Itâs annoying to spend the time to find the right Guild, but itâs not out of the norm to have to jump a good amount of times to find it.
I will say that trying to play catchup 5-6 months into the final patch of an expansion probably has made it harder on you since youâre specifically looking for Mythic Raiding. No one wants to gear a returning player for MYTHIC raiding when everyone else already has the gear and has had it for months.
Iâm not saying youâre wrong for wanting to do the content you know you are capable of or that you should wait for Shadowlands or anything like that, just saying that I think it probably should have been expected that youâd run into hurdles along the way at this stage.
Even socially, it makes sense. The groups will have been raiding together for at least this tier, if not the whole expansion or longer. Youâre coming along as essentially a stranger after all that time. Itâs just a tough time to worm your way into an established group. Again, Iâm not saying you should have waited, obviously not, itâs still months away, but itâll be easier to settle into a group without being a total outsider if you find one to start Shadowlands with.
Stop joining crappy guilds? Lots of guilds on wowprog have their loot rules listed in their recruitment, and itâs also a question to ask upon joining.
Sorry that the majority of players donât agree with you Fluffy, but theyâre right. After reading through this thread its very clear that you donât understand what Mythic raiding is meant to signify. Your type of thinking is what led to the creation of LFR and a loose lockout system for normal and Heroic to allow players who arenât very good still get to see and experience the content while in the expansion. This is fine but now it leaves you continuously wanting more.
If youâre a top skilled player, you will undoubtedly find a guild, work your way into their team, and eventually get gear. Remember, everyone who was there before you also did this, and they have much more right to gear than you do (especially if youre a healer, since DPS are always priority)
If you havent found a guild like that, then youâre not trying hard enough or you arenât very good and should set your sights lower⌠or aim to get better (in pugs).
Your complaints really fall of deaf ears. If youâre mad that people are trading gear to their friends or people theyâve known longer instead of a free-for-all âfairâ roll in an MMO then you should probably play something less social, like skyrim.
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The entire game has been re-built from the ground up to be as pug friendly as possible. Mythic raiding is the literal last piece of content that prioritizes an organized approach. Iâm not really interested in destroying that simply because youâre too a) socially inept b) lazy c) impatient (pick whichever you want). Iâm also not particularly interested in destroying that just so you can go 3-6/12M easier.
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So why canât the ones of us on servers with very few options not get a shot at mythic, and why should we have to server transfer for that. Some of us have an army of toons on a server we joined with friends a long time ago and the friends have since quit the game. We donât want to transfer ten toons to another server.
Some of us find the raid and guild leaders to be socially inept, in all frankness. We donât like them backdoor dealing in gear or getting special treatment, and especially when we have to work especially hard for every piece of gear we get. Why should someone get special treatment over the rest of us when we are all there and complete a fight. If people are not treated fairly they just leave a guild. Then they have to start all over with another guild? It is not fair.
When you have a loot council guess who the gear can go to? It can go to the guild leaderâs alt who has really done no work to get the gear. So who is lazy? Oh, and if the person is socially advanced with great leadership skills they they should get the gear based on that? Honestly, a true leader will embrace fairness. And if the leader is lazy, then others wonât like it and will be more likely to find another guild. But finding a guild is a hassle.
Impatient? I guess you have never pugged anything. For one, if you pug enough you earn the title âThe Patient.â I guess you would know that or you wouldnât have included that in your list. Puggers are impatient, then. Right.
Oh, right. So you have the right to dictate who has a right to have access to content. Some of us either have to fork out a lot of dough to transfer our favorite toonsâall of which have a long list of recipes we would like to have for alts. That or we abandon all of the toons we have been playing for years and start from scratch just to get on a server with guild options.
Well thought out arguments.
Just as an added note: Yeah, I just joined an LFR raid, and asked someone in the raid if they needed a piece of gear they got. Before asking that person about the gear I checked to see what the person was wearing. It was far above the item that they just got. After asking I got the reply that it was an upgrade, which it clearly was not. Then I checked the gear that person was wearing, and the person had switched out the much better gear for the new gear and then, lying, told me that the new gear was an upgrade. Now whatâs the point of this? It is simply that people here have been saying and implying some of us, me namely, are selfish. Right.
So how does this relate to the original post and my main point? Itâs simply that, no, just because a person can pug mythic doesnât mean they have to leave a guild that is fair and is one they enjoy raiding withâcomplete with very socially advanced people. Some of us would like a fair shot at gear and my main point: we all want access to the content. We donât want to feel we have to join and stay with a guild that might have unfair rules in place just to do that. We are tired of guilds that feature selfish people like the one I just mentioned and we donât want to fork out a couple hundred bucks to transfer servers and then guild hop till we find a good, suitable one. Sure, we can leave guilds, but we donât want to if that can be helpedâand if our guild wants to bench us, then why canât we have access to the content another way? If guilds are so wonderful, as so many here have implied, then what? Everyone is going to leave their guilds when they can pug? Not likely unless their guild experiences are bad. So what do people in guilds have to lose if puggers have access to mythic raiding? Nothing if they are happy and their guilds are happy too? No?
Oh, this was a necro. I still hope theyâll decide to get rid of Mythic raid lockouts after the first 100 guilds clear mythic.
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