Guilds? Are they a "good social aspect" or not really

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People claim guilds are a social aspect of the game.

But are they good aspects or bad aspects?

That’s the problem with blizzard and other players. They think guilds are the social aspect holding wow together for the last 20 years.

The sad truth is. Since the begining of time. Guilds are toxic breeding grounds for some of the worst encounters you could ever deal with in wow.

Being in a guild does nothing for the “social aspect” of wow.

Over the last 20 years Ive been in a lot of guilds. Some last an entire xpac. Some don’t last a month.
Some do content together. Some don’t. Some can progress thru realitivily easily. Some couldn’t find the first boss if they had their eyes open. Some are a tight knit group of real life friends. Some are randomly collected from all over the world. Some talk. Some don’t. Some help their fellow guildies. Some don’t. Some use the guild vault to steal items from players who donate for lowbies. Some refuse to let you even donate items.

In 20 years. I can say during one xpac alone it was nice to be part of a guild. That was 16 years ago when I said forget other GM’s and made my own during wrath.

Even then we only had about 7 dedicated raiders and would swap out what we needed with puggers or fresh 80s and still progress thru content.

Yes it was a nice feeling to get some bosses down as a group of people that have been trying to progress and what not. But you can get that same feeling in a pug honestly (and you get per boss cause you don’t honestly expect to get much done in a pug).

I helped my guildies level up faster. Get gear faster. Helped them with professions and whatever else they needed.

It didn’t do anything to keep them playing. Or to keep them in the guild even sometimes.

Guilds don’t last. So I never understood why people claim they are the social glue that makes the MMO experience. In reality as a GM it was another job. As a random player you get pushed to the side.

Overall I would say guilds hold 0 value when it comes to a social aspect. And holds even less value if you join that already has a dedicated raid group.

There probably is not a single guild that existed on vanilla that still exists today in dragonflight ( that is an actual progression guild that has progressed during every patch and every xpac).

So if thats the case. How are guilds even considered a social aspect of wow besides to have an extra chat menu?

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Every guild OP has in, has held 0 value and apparently been a toxic breeding ground.

What is the common denominator?

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You are the one equating a guild progressing for 20 years as some how being tied into the social aspect of guilds.

Thats a pretty donkey statement.

A guild’s lifespan has nothing to do with the social aspect of guilds.

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The irony of your statement.

Is the fact that people claim guilds are the reason people do anything progression wise in the game. When guilds break up consistently and constantly everyday.

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Guilds make it a ton easier to progress. That is factual.

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Sorry, didn’t see this part.

You didnt ask an honest question.

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If you like doing medium and up content, guilds are the best for that since you can build a lot of connections.

If you’re in a guild where people only do easy stuff that is puggable, no one is really going to stick around or build those connections.

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Many guilds last and I’ve made friends that out lasted guilds from them that didn’t last or that I left. Many guilds have reformed expansions after expansions, a guild dying is not the end.

I think if you’re not having a great time with all the guilds you’ve been in that you’re either really unlucky or just aren’t a social player.

I wish more was given to do with your guild. The fact that only mythic raiding is still designed toward guilds for me is a problem when guilds are a big part of the community in which you should want to play with.

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Pugs are random people you don’t know grouping to do content that you may or may not ever see again

Guilds are random people you don’t know grouping to do content that you may or may not ever see again

With guilds you do get a shorter CD on your heartstone and access to some heirlooms

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Didn’t read the whole thing probably just a rant on guilds …
Ill just say it depends going off the title

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I guess they might not be if you have crappy interpersonal skills and treat the and/or the people within them like a revolving door.

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How does a guild increase social aspect to wow?

Join guild>guild has hosts activities for every kind of player> partake in said activities> bam you’re getting social and progressing.

Even classic leveling guilds have a reason to exist, you can ask for help on quest lines, pre raid reqs, dungeon forming.

Even for role players there’s rich guilds that been around since vanilla-WOTLK with weekly activities.

Do you know what you want out of wow OP? Cause it sounds like you don’t. You can definitely find a guild that focuses one aspect of the game, or multiple they’re not rare at all. Be social and ask your realm for guilds that offer an aspect of the game you enjoy and want to grow in.

My friend has a guild that does storyline RP, helps build others characters up and story, and they do weekly heroic raids and some mythic raiding with a lot of mythic+.

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Correct. If you are ever in my guild I will assault you daily with.

‘meow’

Cower in fear!!

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applies to guild

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Accepted. Meow!

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if you can get a regular group, guilded or not, it’s much easier to progress any content

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Recognize the OP name got tossed in less than a month for toxicity.

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Guilds are what you put into them. You want to be in the corner not socializing, it shouldn’t be the guild’s responsibility to get you to make friends.

I’ve had some pretty interesting experiences in guilds, from watching a marriage fall apart to people wanting more progression, even if it means benching/kicking half the raid team to get those results.

I’m the kind of person that shows up for raids, sends messages in discord and occasionally in Gchat and that’s it. I’m not there to make best friends, I’m there to raid and have some light hearted banter with the people there.

Guilds aren’t meant to be chains, they are meant as an option for groups to get together and for organized raiding/pvp.

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IDK man. Really seems like a very broad brush you’re using via personal experience.

Most guilds I have been apart of…very casually have been fine.

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Unironically I think guilds might be more social if you could be in 2 or 3 at once. Like you said, guilds do different things, have different goals, and have different players. Some IRL, some not. You have to pigeon hole your character or playtime to one of these things only.