Guild Settings changed AGAIN

We sat while you made the change originally to “lump” settings together. Most of us hated that and “lived” with it. Now yall did it yet again with NO notice or post in the patch notes. There are 2 MAIN issues that I as a GM have with these new settings.

Officers in a guild should not be the ONLY ones to edit public notes in a guild. I am a GM of 600+ guild with over 300 alts and we need to be able to have THEM edit their OWN notes… PLease fix this ASAP. This is the stupidest change to have been made.

Then
The “Delete other people’s chat messages” and the fact that people can delete their own messages is really not helpful as a GM standpoint. IF there are any drama related things said ANYONE can delete it as if it was never said (whether it is the person who said it deleting their own messages or an officer deleting them so that the guild cant see them)

We have had our share of guild drama over the past 5 years that i have owned and ran this guild. And IF those people had been able to do the things that you are now allowing in the chats we would not have known alot of things. One was an officer and others were just regular guildies. If this continues there wont be any officers people can trust with bigger guilds. at one point we had over 800 people with 400+ alts.

Please do us a favor and bring BACK the older way where we have control of WHO can see and do what instead of making ALL officers the same as our Co-GM’s and such.

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hear hear /clap

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Agreed on the first point.

Mixed on the second. It’s pretty damn standard in a lot of chat mediums to be able to edit/delete your own messages and for moderators of some kind to be able to delete others’ messages. I think a better solution would be to allow officers+ to be able to see deleted messages (just mark them as such so it’s obvious).

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In either instance why aren’t these changes made public? Why did they not poll a change like this before implementing and two put it in patch notes.

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On the second one. The only reason why it’s an issue for me personally is due to the things that have happened in our guild. I’m not against them being deleted but when you go back and look it only shows who deleted it. Which I mean that we can ask hey why was this deleted but, with that being said why would I want more things to handle when we already have so much to do as GM’s. Especially since people can just lie about what was said and why it was deleted. I’d much more prefer to be able to choose what ranks can delete is the main issue. As i have 3 officer ranks each for different things.

Tin foil hat…

To answer…

To catch autobot accounts…

This isn’t a democracy, they never poll changes before making them, though sometimes they’ll adjust them afterwards if there’s complaints.

I agree with this, stealth changes of any kind are very annoying.

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Cannot stress the why no notice enough in my post.

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I didn’t know the second one existed but I think it is a good idea. People can take screenshots of chats if there is drama.

If the correct people are online yes. Sometimes there’s not and its just regular guildies and then it just looks bad on guild.

you can tell when someone deleted a message though - it is far better for an offensive message to be deleted rather than have a whole bunch of people who weren’t online at the time get involved in drama.

Wait. You can delete your own messages? Since when was this a thing?

yes but you cant see said message to know what it was is the whole point.

Idk - I just tried it and it works. I think it is an improvement though.

And yes in 8.2 they ghost added it.

That is a GOOD thing. If no one online cares to share it with you then it is just best to ignore it anyway.

it is NOT a good thing XD. That’s the whole point. They can also delete the GM’s messages as well. So no its not

I am not sure things are working correctly if they can delete other people’s messages but I fully support someone being able to delete their own.

The trouble with guilds is that blizzard doesn’t normally interfere if people are getting harassed - it is expected the GM takes care of things but when a GM is the one doing the harassing is someone supposed to just sit with a harassing chat message in the guild channel ?

Maybe with the chat logs though blizzard will get involved now.

I have a character who is an officer in a guild.. I checked the delete messages and am not sure where that is coming from. Are you sure it isn’t an option somewhere because I can’t delete any messages, not even my own. and by messages I’m assuming you mean chat.. not notes.

The guild I just tried it in I am an officer as well and I can delete anyone’s. So maybe there is a permission thing going on.

Yes there is a permission thing.

https://imgur.com/a/XR97iZj