So you’re speaking as if you know what you’re talking about, regarding an issue you’ve never dealt with, to a community you’re not a part of, and unfamiliar with.
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Strictly speaking the realm forums are to discuss things regarding this realm, with people on this realm. You do you though xD
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I’ll inform you, since you’re unaware, being that you don’t play on this server.
Wyrmrest Accord, despite your implications, is a lovely community full of lovely people. If you are here to be a constructive part of that community, if you’re kind, if you’re good-natured, and tolerant, we are very welcoming.
But our community isn’t nice for no reason. It’s nice because when people are toxic, abusive, mean, when they harass, bully, and instigate, we shut that ![:poop:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/poop.png?v=6" ":poop:")
down so fast their head spins. We have a community-enforced zero tolerance policy for harassment, bullying, gay-bashing, racism, transphobia, and everything else other servers seem to tolerate, if not accept and encourage.
What we do works, and it’s made our server a very nice, friendly place. If we seem unfriendly, it’s because you’re suggesting we do exactly the opposite of what keeps WrA good, and claiming some kind of moral highground, when we’ve all seen every day we’ve been here, PROOF that you are incorrect.
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I have been grinding Zandalari rep for, like, weeks to unlock them as an allied race and I’m weirdly annoyed that they added something interesting after I started not logging in and now I’m way behind
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I’ve joined a few guilds with really bad reputations on this server and I’ve found that almost always that reputation is well-earned. Sometimes people can change! And that’s always lovely. But in every scenario in which multiple unrelated people (as to say they’re not a friend group or all in a guild together etc.) warned me about a guild or person, it’s wound up being true. And I wind up really regretting that I got involved with that guild / person.
This server is really forgiving of terrible things. People will say that it’s not and in the short-term people can hold grudges, but in the long-term you need to do something really horrible to get a unanimous reputation to the point that a large amount of the server will not roleplay with you.
So really like.
If this bad rep is coming from everyone in a guild together or everyone in a friend group or everyone in one discord server, take it with a grain of salt. However if this reputation is coming from multiple people who have no or little relation to one another and the story stays the same, there’s almost certainly some credibility there.
Be very careful particularly of those who have a reputation of disrespecting OOC boundaries, of stalking/harassing, or of being extremely prejudiced towards minorities. Meanwhile, some reputations are created by bad people looking to defame the individuals who call them out on it. I know this one guy who has a reputation for causing drama because he wouldn’t let people make racist comments in discord without being confronted.
So really it depends on what the drama is, who is saying it, how many people are saying it, and what motivation someone might have for saying it. It’s a very nuanced thing IMO but you learn to recognize the signs with enough time and experience.
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It’s worth it, I promise!
My impression is that if someone is posting on a server drama thread, they’re probably from that server. And if they’re posting on a character off-server, they’re probably just on an alt because they’re too afraid to post on their main.
(edit: This is Kirsy btw. I didn’t realize I was still on my other pally when started writing)
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That, or they browse the new threads category for all forums.
Two things.
First:
Youre probably awa that my tag is merely a vanity guild. Its just me and my alts. I do not provide anything, not even bank space, to anyone. Best I could do, is some gold f repairs.
Few years back someone was looking for a guild with the heirloom legs unlocked, and I invited them. I mean, they had something in mind, were from a community of adults…what could go wrong?
Then some days later, I receive a whisper from another person in the community, informing me of crass comments this guildy made.
I was hella uncomfortable.
I didnt want anyone with my tag under their name creep on others.
So the boot it was.
And I apologised to t person at the receiving end of the whispers.
Protecting a guild reputation is ![:100:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/100.png?v=6" ":100:")
valid, as what everyone else has said.
Obviously, feel free to disregard my story, beca I’m not a ‘real’ guild leader.
Second:
We’ve been talking about a new guildy being toxic, but what if the GM is the one who’s the creep? There’s this one guild on WrA that kept getting name changed all the time, and some times I legit see the GM rp with someone. I’m not stalking anyone, I just have a talent for stumbling into folks.
Am I going to warn that poor soul that they’re RPing with a creep?
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There’s plenty of reason to take someone’s advice on a person, but with a grain of salt. Generally if someone goes the length of warning you, either the person is pretty bad, or the one doing the warning is the person to look out for. Sometimes someone just wants to take an argument further and have it always chase the person. As well, you can’t tell the exact situation that happened between them, so someone could entirely be out to ruin another’s reputation. Especially if the one doing the warning has a presence in the community no one would suspect foul play. I personally look at the person’s motives for joining a guild. If they’re well fleshed out and they have a character that fits the guild, etc, and their behavior holds up in the interview/interactions/first few days, they’re probably fine. If they won’t give straight answers, or be direct, or any other amount of red flags, that’s worth more to me than another person coming and telling you something.
Of course, this goes out the window if someone has proof of something really nasty I won’t get into that they want to warn the guilty party of.
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I strongly agree with Netala. A guild fielding process is a good step for guild leaders to take toward managing a safe space. It isn’t a fix-all, but it’s at least a start.
Sometimes guild leaders do see complaints and warnings as little sparks of drama and are quick stamp it out before it can spread. It is entirely within their own right to do so. Coping with drama or uncomfortable behaviors and even harassment is about protecting their enjoyment of the game first.
When drama (not to be confused with harassment) unfolds, the first thing guild leaders/officers need to decide is if they should get involved at all.
In my own experience, getting involved depends entirely on the situation, the context behind it, and the people involved.
On one hand, snuffing out every little whiff of trouble isn’t always the best way to go about things. Depending on the situation, it can nullify any chance of potential positive consequences or result in discouraging others from expressing themselves. Left unaired, conflict will simmer until it boils over or erupts.
On the other hand, failure to intervene in some situations can disrupt a guild’s ability to function and impede members’ ability to enjoy the game.
Generally speaking, most guild leaders/officers out there have their own way to determine whether or not to get involved.
As far as harassment goes, if someone breaks Blizzard’s Code of Conduct, particularly with regards to communication and behavior, I am strongly of the opinion that members of the community should take screenshot evidence of the harassment and report it to Blizzard Entertainment.
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Okay, so I’m home from a nightmare shift and let’s see what’s going on in the threads I’ve been watching aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand gat dang some of you need a hug, some of you need a snickers and some of you need tranquilizers.
I’m outtie, time to go brush the cats.
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hug you say?
There’s a guild for that.
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Personally I’m suspicious if someone has too good of a reputation. Or no reputation at all.
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Trust no one, not even your Yelp.
★★☆☆☆
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Which one am I?
Can I have both?
Ooh, Snickers! Guild reputation definitely goes up with the handout of food.
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but…HOW YOU KNOW WHAT I LOOK LIKE?
-gives hug-
Well I know I’m a bit late for this discussion, but I do have something to say about it. I have a guild, the name was changed but not because of the incident. That happen 3 years ago, I changed the name about a month ago just because.
In any case. I had a friend and we played these games for many, many years. anywhere between 15 to 20 starting with EQ. And during that time we had what i call blow ups 3 times. The 3rd one being this last fight. And after these blow up we would not talk for anywhere between 1 to well now 3 years.
Well to tell you what happen on this last blow up. Well to start what lead up to the situation, I was about to run a very low lvl dungeon to farm for a dagger for the mog. My friend asked if they can join me I said sure. but the dagger I want for the mog. Which if they wanted it to we could run it again every week until we both got it. But at that time I thought Hunters could not use daggers as mogs. but i guess they can. /shrug. Anyway as we where going through the dungeon They started getting more and more short with me.
The dungeon was not the only thing we where talking about. As friends we also had personal conversations. Well this thing that made my friend so angry with me is to important not to tell. My husbands kidneys where failing and at the same time his feet where swelling up. My friend suggested the water pill and we had this discussion before. And like last time i told them I don’t know why the doctor wont put him on the water pill. but my brother was taken off it maybe he might know why. Well when he got on he said it was because they are hard on the kidneys and that made sense to me. Well after my brother started going back on his answer, which irritated me. My friend said in a snotty way. “well i can’t be in the doctors office with your husband” I’m like you don’t need to be snippy. They then started yelling at me at the top of there lungs to the point of skype cutting out. I suggested we hang up and cool off they just yelled louder. Then accused me of being angry. I’m like I’m not even mad but I am getting there. Then as it kept going on I had enough, kicked them from the guild and my friends list. I have not talked to this person since. Yes i do miss them, But when someone can’t see how they mistreated another, I’m not sure i can trust them with my feelings. But did I ever go to there guild leader and ruin there reputation. No I didn’t. I figure a person can do that all on there own. Or they can change and be a better person. Will i let them back in my life , well that depends on them.