Also, if this momentary “lashing out” was that bad, whether it was a heated moment or not, that’s kind of a big deal. I don’t want someone so emotionally immature in my guild that their excuse for violent or xenophobic outbursts is “well I was really mad though”.
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Fake post
(Took me so long to post this because I’m at a doc appointment!)
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heated
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I’m not gonna read all these mountains of text but I’ve been on the receiving end of weird… I don’t want to call them smear campaigns, but you know what I mean.
Screenshots can be faked. Chatlogs can be faked. Discord logs are extremely easy to fake. Unfortunately when it comes down to it, if someone has evidence against you, people have to be sensible about whether or not they believe the evidence or not.
I’d say that usually if stuff’s not true it doesn’t really stick, but I’ve also seen situations where a total lack of proof (or proof that was clearly bogus) didn’t stop someone from getting dragged.
One of the biggest problems is when stuff doesn’t come back to you at all. I recently found out that someone really, really hates me (for reasons I’m unclear on) and has spent the last few years telling people I’m a TERF and pedo. Didn’t know about it until an old, returning friend told me about it purely by chance. Not fun and also not something you can do anything about 'til it’s too late, so to speak.
Stinko.
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You rang??
For the record I’ve dealt with some nasty lies myself, that bled into real life and became an issue.
But I also don’t want people just assuming any complaint or claim is fake, because nobody is really a victim, just a person who got got first.
This isn’t Game of Thrones.
Yeah Blizz still won’t let us hide our pants
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Yeahhh. Had a guildie who was infamous for destroying his keyboard and controllers in pvp. He was in his 30’s, so he wasn’t a kid.
Got mad at me once and called me all sorts of names in Vent. Then after the gkick, he tried telling me he was just having a gamer moment. He got to have them elsewhere after that.
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Sometimes they don’t even ask you to disregard it, they just don’t think it’s that big a deal.
From the old days of the LiveJournal WoW communities: someone booted a guy and his friend for sexually harassing the women guild members. Said GM heard later that the first guy was complaining about being booted from guilds. When asked why, the offense was always the same: sexually harassing women guild members.
Ah, the PewDiePie Defense.
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I’ve seen at least one situation where people spread the false rumors about another person because they wanted to for grins and giggles, knowing the rumors were lies, and were enraged when said person refused to interact with them or accept their “apology”.
I will never understand this defense.
Full disclosure, I have a horrible temper (its thousands of times better now than when I was younger) as in throwing controllers when I was a teen.
Never, even at my worst, did I ever restort to racist slurs, yelling in voice chat, angry capslocked screeds in chat.
Anyone who says “oh well I was mad” can go %!@& themselves.
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As the old saying goes, if it’s not part of your vocabulary, it won’t come out when you’re mad.
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This thread makes me wonder if there are any nasty, untrue rumors out there about me. o.o
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I used to worry about that then I realized that my life is not that exciting.
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I don’t know whether the person kicked is truly prone to drama or heated confrontation, or not. Usually that kind of behavior is quick to notice. For example, if she had joined the guild and then immediately started ripping on her old guild in GC, that’s a red flag. But she made no mention of other guilds in GC. She thanked us for inviting her and told us a bit about her character. Then it was just normal banter from there on out.
I never saw her post a mean thing about someone else.
Plus, my former GLs do ask you about other guilds you’ve been in and why you are no longer in them during a brief OOC interview. Someone who is prone to drama would have bashed their old guilds right then. That’s why we ask those questions. Even if a former guild is truly awful there is a way to answer without ranting.
So as far as I know she never insulted her former guilds. She never gave any indication that she’s rude, mean, or bullying.
I think this is whats key. The only way you are going to get the full story is if you were one of the parties involved or if one/both of the parties involved gave you the full story.
Outside of that everything is conjecture. You feel that the kicking was wrong and chose to leave the guild. That is your right and business.
What I suggest not doing is claiming that all people who inform on others to guild leaders are immature. You frankly cannot accurately make that claim and its irresponsible to do so.
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It is also irresponsible to put so much stake into what someone else tells you about another player, screenshots or not. You can take heed and keep an eye on that player, but simply removing someone for the sake of preserving your reputation is not the best way to go about it.
I used to be on another RP server. The whole environment was toxic. If you didn’t make the right impressions with the right people your reputation takes a steep nosedive that you can’t recover from. I witnessed outright lies being told. Screenshots altered. And I didn’t do a damn thing about it. If the right person had something bad to say about you, whether it is true or not, you were done for. You couldn’t join guilds. No one would RP with you. If you did manage to find a guild or a RP buddy it didn’t last long.
I do not want to see that happen here. Please, take my advice. Give people a chance. Even if what is said is true you might help that person change their behavior and become a better person. Be a friend.
I heard you’re hella cool. Is this a lie or are you seriously hella cool?
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She’s hella hot actually.
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