Am I crazy or is it just impossible to find random strangers to sign a guild charter? I’ve been offering 3k gold each on Thunderhorn for weeks and haven’t gotten a single response. I really don’t want to be that person that starts sending whispers to every random player like some do because I know how annoying that is. This requirement really needs to be removed. I’d rather there be a start-up cost for a guild if Blizzard really wants to try to limit the # of guilds that exist.
The whole cross-realm thing really has messed up the ‘community’ situation. No more making friends with people you play with regularly, because you rarely see the same people more than once… unless you start a guild, which you can’t do because you don’t know anyone because you never spend any time with anyone in particular…
Agreed. I’m considering just getting a whole separate account to make it possible. I’d rather spend the $15 for a one month sub, then stand in Stormwind or Dornogal spamming guild signature requests, when I’m just going to be ignored anyway. And I don’t have the kind of money to give people a million gold per signature.
Requiring signatures is one of those things that they really do need to do away with. Make it behind a paywall, like mounts are. 5,000 gold or 10,000 or whatever, to create a guild.
Be warned that if you sign the charter on one character on an account, it removes that signature if you sign on another character on the same account. I tried to sign my friend’s 4 times but I could only sign on one
Imagine trying to make friends at school if every day the people you met there were from a different dimension and every class you went to was a PUG filled with people you likely will never see again.
I gave that a thought, but my understanding is you’d actually need 4 accounts (1 for each signature) since you can’t use alts on the same account to sign. I’m not spending $60 to create a guild.
You’re a rare rainbow unicorn then. As I said, I’ve been trying for weeks. The comedic part of it is that while I’m standing by the Abbey where most new players seem to be, I get asked to sign other charters of people who also say they’ve been trying for weeks.
So you can’t have account #2 with 4 different alts? When did that change happen? I never knew they did away with it, because that’s how I used to sign my own guild charters.
Guild Charters should have been done away with over a decade ago.
I get the intent. It’s a guild. It’s meant to be an organized group of people who either know each other or at least have the same goals in mind. So you should be going into guild creation with a group already established that will sign for you - because they’re going to be a part of it.
But it’s never how it actually worked.
People get their 10 (now 4) signatures, probably paid half or all of them to do so, probably spammed chat a bit, created the guild, then kicked everyone so now they have a guild bank, a “title”, and some customizable transmog to themselves. Or maybe for them and their SO or something.
The concept of charters has never accomplished what it’s trying to accomplish and there’s no reason it should continue to exist.
Let it die, replace it with a gold sink, the game could always use more of those anyway.
Either that or double down. Keep the charter. Auto-disband the guild if more than 25% of the original signers leave the guild within 30 days and it has not gained any Guild Achievements or gained over x number of members since then or something.
Not with how expensive the warband bank tabs are (~3M gold for all 5 if I recall correctly). For some people that may be nothing, but I’d guess for most players it’s more than they’ve ever had by a lot. By comparison, 5 tabs of a guild bank are only 4,350 gold, 6th is 5k and 7th which requires guild level 5 (which if I recall isn’t hard to do get even solo, eventually) is only 10k for a total of 19,350 gold.
Using guilds as expanded storage may not be what Blizzard intended, but it’s definitely the wiser option.
Too many guilds, not enough people. Most are just someone’s leveling alt they’ll maybe visit once a year and then ditch for the rest. Most of WoW’s retail base are in some version of Classic where they’re constantly drip fed little bits of content to desperately keep them going barely addicted, or in another game.
I don’t see most folks sticking around for the rest of TWW unless it’s a real doozy in the last patch, Undermine is nice and all, but it’s mostly a raid with a few areas for RP and some grind. I give it till folks beat Mythic then retail is a ghost town till end patch or even December and housing.
im in favor of replacing guild charters with a gold fee, 99% of guilds being made these days are just people paying to open the guild and then everyone going their seperate ways
Sure, I’ve got only three tabs on mine, but with the reagant bank, 34+ size bank and inventory bags and much larger stack sizes than in the old days, I still have less of a need for a guild bank than I’ve ever had.
I mean, each of my toons has up to 266 bank storage slots with 34-slot bags, 98 slot reagant bank, with lots of reagants stacking to 250, and then the 98 slots for each tab on the warband bank. Three wasn’t too expensive.
And the character limit is much higher now, so you can just create numerous alts with that 266 slot bank and 98 slot reagant bank if you need to stash some stuff somewhere.
Transmogs have eliminated the need to hold onto items just because you think they’re cool looking. Toys, Pets and Mounts are in custom tabs, heirlooms are in custom tabs (if they were still worth using). I don’t have a single toon whose base bank is even close to full, anymore, and there’s no doubt a bunch of junk I haven’t bothered to sort through that could just be vendored.
