Funny this thread hasn’t been flagged for spam as a repeat topic.
Guess we have a good idea which side abuses that “feature”…the same side saying right click report in game will be abused. LOL
Absolutely priceless.
Anyways since you want discussion and your own thread. Here we go:
If you fail to see guild banks as anything but in the spirit of Vanilla you don’t understand the spirit of Vanilla or maybe some do understand the free gold stream that guild bank alts (gba’s hench forth).
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They provide a community goal. (spirit of Vanilla)
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They allow officers to be in game more instead of updating out of game databases.(spirit of Vanilla and updating data bases is NOT gameplay)
2.Which provides them more time in game to strengthen community bonds.(spirit of Vanilla)
2.b In turn builds stronger more engaged communities.(oh look more Spirit of Vanilla)
- Less stress on the servers at prime raid time when the main cities are full and a bunch of immersion breaking bank alts with various immersion breaking names with bank in them are being logged in and out.
3.b-We don’t need this to contribute to a reason to slip sharding in at prime time or in major cities.(Bit of Spirit of Vanilla there for ya too)
This is NOT an end all insurmountable task.
They did it once and they can do it again.
Hobbyists have been setting up servers and modifying games for decades.
Besides the fact it is literally what blizz does. LOL
Then went on to add loot sharing, right click report, bnet and possible use of sharding. Which we still don’t know the extent of.
All of thise arguably effect the “experience”.
Which blizz keeps referring to. It’s a classic experience.
When they spoke about core gameplay tgey spoke about questing, leveling, and fight mechanics.
Not one mention of storage.
So yes indeed a classic experience with guild banks very well could be considered.
Fair point. However unless the guild tab is set to free for all or the recieving party has permissions. They would still have to engage another person to finish the transaction.
So they would still be at the mercy of inconvenience.
So not really the instant loophole in every circumstance.
Why would they leave a loop hole like mail/alt storage to bypass inventory management?
If it was so important as has been claimed in this on going discussion.
I have admitted that there are certain qol conveniences that come along with guild banks.
It was in one of these threads. I’m surprised you missed it being here since the begining and all.
The good that come with them far outweigh the slight qol tgey provide mostly to the officers tracking inventories.
As pointed out they can use that free time ti strengthen community.
I’ve also had a discussion about how gba’s are much more convenient that gb’s depending on the circumstance and from who’s PoV.
There are more mailboxes in Azeroth than there are cities with bank access.
Which is another discussion.
Yes. We know that is why there have been 13 capped threads one long continuous thread and now this.
This has been thought about and thoroughly dissected from almost every angle.
That is also why this has been the longest on going classic discussion.
I do think it is at a point that blizz shoukd weigh in but I think we’ve been at that point on most wow topics. LOL
Yes it did have a different social dynamic.
It was a different time. A different era. The people were 14 years younger!
Quite a lot has changed since then.
At their core GB’s and GBA’s do the exact same thing.
They store items for tge guild community to use and contribute to helping each other.
The only difference is in game tracking and an in game UI that the whole guild can see.
If permissions are set so only officers can withdraw you still force the same “social” interaction you would if they are using GB’s or logging onto an alt to retrieve the item.
Further more in thus situation the officer us inconvenienced because he has to go to a major city to make the withdrawal.
Which is more inconvenient? Logging out for 2 mins to log onto a toon sitting in a major city or gaving to fly to a major city from parts unknown?
So really the whole convenience debate boils down to PoV.
Which i did indeed concede in a debate on this angle.
So they added bnet, loot sharing, and possibly sharding. All of which I’d argue affect that very social dynamic.
So. Not putting much stock in what anyone at blizz says especially when they immediately go against what they are saying.
They have less cred with me than the weather people in Michigan.
No one is disputing this. It is the only point that can not be argued.
Now where have I heard this copypasta before.
It’s been shown more than once there is more to it than QoL.
Suppression of a good idea with bad ideaology has held our species back for millennia.
Actually you and another poster keep bringing up convenience. (I wonder…)
You’re right because there’s more to it than convenience byt you keep saying qol and convenience.
Even though that has been shown to be dependant on PoV for the users of either banking system.
Yes and “Classic Experience” means what blizz sees as the Classic Experience.
Yes. With or with out them we will get by. Some just won’t contribute to gba’s and some will get free epic mounts or make real money of the scam that gba’s have the potential if being.
I am all for more player choice but this isn’t a game play choice.
This is a workaround storage management choice. Lol
Oh yea this isn’t immersion breaking at all.
This is definitely what was untended.
Just shot the “inventory management is core gameplay” argument right in the foot there didn’t ya. LOL
You’re limping.
Bam and the other foot as well.
Now you’re on the ground.
We know how far that goes in online gaming.
We can trust them with a log, traceabilty, and a bit more transparency too.
Which you just said we could bypass by choosing to use alts as storage.
You just took a self exploded mortar.
You have no leg to stand on with this line of argument.
Which is what you’re doing making the bank alts in the first place? Don’t forget that.
So you’re talking about personal guikd banks as storage here?
You’re starting to go a bit all over the place here. If you are referring to personal guikd banks:
That is why IF blizz thinks personal guild banks are detrimental to core game play they can add restrictions to prevent it.
However if blizz does NOT care. Which they have never giving any indication of caring in the slightest since they were added.
Then so what? People pay for sigs which is a positive for the economy.
Gold being moved around in the economy, small source of gold for new players/low level alts.
Ofc the gold sink which is the first tab and so on.
Also those tabs still require bags and so will that personal guild bank alt.
So I’m guessing here but those positives sound like long-term they outweigh a slight decrease in short-term bag sales that ling term will eventually be almost non-existent.
In the long term ofc.
Blizz makes this call.
Note all of these were shown to have holes in them. Again.