Guild Banks Pt. 14

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 1:29pm

I don’t care what it was and is, it’s not in Classic.

Well, when you pass Grade 2 perhaps you’ll be able to read half the stuff I’ve written.

Starman-zangarmarsh · February 4, 2019, 1:37pm

I would think that if this topic has gone this long, Blizzard would make a statement and shut it down one way or another. Six months out and nothing yet?

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 1:39pm

Definitely need a Blue for sure.

Padrepwn-kiljaeden · February 4, 2019, 1:44pm

As would I. That is why I believe they tested the waters with the announced known/possible changes statements. Also the ominous part of the first dev water cooler , “and similar conveniences that do not affect the core gameplay experience.”

Redheadchild-kul-tiras · February 4, 2019, 1:49pm

I love how people think I’m negotiating for guild banks…
Since when did I have any say in what classic is?
Since when did any of us have a true say in classic?

I’ve given suggestions that blizzard could use, or they could ignore.

Making a suggestion is not negotiating.

Just because I’m willing to try to see things from the opposition’s view point and show possible fixes to their concerns doesn’t mean I’m negotiating.

As an example, when people brought up “personal guild banks” as something they saw as an issues. Saying "if blizzard sees it as an issue they could just make them not functional without X number of unique members. It’s a suggestion to blizzard an the assumption (based on the no changers views) that personal guild banks would be an issue.

That’s not negotiating, that’s pointing out that if blizzard views it as a problem they can easily fix it. However based on the past 12 years of guild banks, it doesn’t seem blizzard sees it as a problem.

Padrepwn-kiljaeden · February 4, 2019, 2:00pm

Preaching to the choir brother.
This is a discussion. Claiming otherwise is an attempt at derailment.
That is why I told the latest avatar skin “joining” into the discussion i was done with his derailment tactic.

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:03pm

You mean my main character? Saying lines like this that I have to correct you on IS derailment. Perhaps stop making garbage statements unless you want to derail your own thread…hypocrite.

Too bad you couldn’t resist because I probably wouldn’t have come back at you if you just had the first two lines. So good bait, but that derailment was on you.

Padrepwn-kiljaeden · February 4, 2019, 2:13pm

Just making fellow posters aware of some of the tactics being used to try and influence discussions around here.
I see it hit a nerve though. /shrug
If that is hypocrisy to ya i don’t know what ta tell ya.
Next you will tell me about the majority and popular opinions too right? The crystal magic 8-ball works everytime. Lol

But back to gbanks in the spirit of Vanilla providing a community goal and facilitation of that strong Vanilla community feeling with guild banks. Did you have anything to add to that or have you gone back and actually read any of it?
Until you do…Next!

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:19pm

Telling you you’re wrong isn’t a tactic unless I’m trying to win something…and I’m not. I can’t speak for you though.

When someone like you is wrong, writes lines to bait a response and is ignorant…yeah, usually several hundred nerves are hit.

I don’t have to, you did that all by yourself Here it is below:

Nice 8-balling

Don’t have to do that either because I’ve already refuted that and quoted it twice. Looks like I’m going back for a third…and here it is below:

You really either have the memory retention of a gnat, blind, or you’re intentionally NOT reading or comprehending what you’re reading. I would say all the above but that’s mean, so I’d say it’s just the latter.

You literally are a fool. I don’t know who’s more foolish though, probably me trying to make a fool see reason but at least everyone else can see how bad and desperate you really are.

I’ll take that.

Blindsáp-stormrage · February 4, 2019, 2:29pm

lemme ask u something tho. I don’t wanna read everything you and Padre have spoken about cause im sure its a lot. What is your main point to the thread, so I can rebuttal? ty

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:32pm

If the question is for me, my main point I believe is that Classic should remain authentic as possible. Padre says this:

It wasn’t a feature in Vanilla in the first place and didn’t/doesn’t or change the community at all.

Blindsáp-stormrage · February 4, 2019, 2:34pm

Okay, now im gonna ask you. How does it effect your gameplay. Padre is right defending the fact that most players that are already intending on playing classic, will indeed play classic still. Im not on either side of the argument tho, which means im not for or against it and ill be playing regardless of what happens

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:36pm

My personal gameplay or gameplay in general? My personal gameplay answer is already given: “as close to as an authentic experience possible.” The general gameplay answer is that it creates extra storage space which was an issue. Adding extra space I believe is just a QoL issue. But vanilla came with pros… and CONS.

It was what it was.

Starman-zangarmarsh · February 4, 2019, 2:40pm

Nobody’s going to care about guild banks if they’re added. It doesn’t affect enough to matter. Also, alts are a major security risk.

Who is REALLY going to say “nah, guild banks are in, not playing”?

Blindsáp-stormrage · February 4, 2019, 2:41pm

okay, fair point. You just said “issue” though. It was an issue back in classic wow for a lot of players. An issue presumes the fact something needs refinement. In this case, if adding a guild bank fixes this, it also adds a resource, which mind you isn’t huge at all, to help A) yourself, and B) Your friends/guild. Its a very small change tbh and I wouldn’t even call it a change. The nochange community, in my eyes, are the most anarchist types of people in the community. Not saying your one of those people, because like me I want classic to be a real representation of what it used to be like. However with this specific topic, it doesn’t change that classic feel and nostalgic breakdown of the game itself.

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:47pm

That isn’t the point. Using that logic, why don’t you pick anything from retail and just add it because we can and because ‘nobody would really care’? The proverbial ‘we’ do care actually and we’re wondering where the line is being drawn.

If you give someone your account info…sure. That’s on the fool that does though.

A lot of things needed refinement and were slowly corrected/changed with patches and expansion packs but that’s where current WoW is now. This project dedicated to the recreation of Vanilla WoW.

When Blizzard say they were doing a recreation of Classic, ‘we’ kinda thought that it would be a faithful recreation of it. Not ‘hey guys, here’s Classic but we changed a few things and added some stuff from retail…’

Now, it’s not so Classic.

Blindsáp-stormrage · February 4, 2019, 2:49pm

You have a point, I respect that. But it doesn’t change, like I said, the classic feel. Its still going to be classic no matter what it is. I mean at the end of the day, will you be playing it when it comes out? Or will a small, miniscule addition render you off back into retail?

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:56pm

Thanks for the respect.

Depends how much is actually changed. Let’s say for this topic only it’s just guild banks…of course I will still play, but lets flip the coin. Is the same true for people wanting guild banks and they’re not added? Will they still play?

So why then, do I have to accept them being in there but not the other way around? To be fair, I would have more of a point that they shouldn’t be only because the whole project is about a faithful recreation where as the other way is wanting it for QoL. What I mean is, my stance mirrors up/aligns with what the whole project is in the first place, why it exists about than say someone who wants an easier time with managing items…which they have already with retail.

So we’re at this impasse then where I think just because I will still play doesn’t mean it should be there and if someone that does want it there will still continue to believe it should be added but continue to play.

Starman-zangarmarsh · February 4, 2019, 2:57pm

Diff, you don’t get it. The reason why there’s such a fuss about guild banks was because of the rampant scamming with alts. That’s it.

Difford-nagrand · February 4, 2019, 2:59pm

Can’t you still scam with alts if in a guild? Invite alt, leech from bank? The only thing stopping would be a rank.

Did you have another scam in mind?