There shouldn’t be an attack at all. Like I said earlier. The most upset are the hoarders who likely have SEVERAL personal banks for things they have “treasured” since classic. Blaming someone for trying to fix an unintended mistake and demanding reparations is just non-sense. I lost a lot too. I have re-farmed most of it during the lifespan of these threads. These are pixels in a game that doesn’t even belong to me. If I left WoW tomorrow, I could not pack it up and take it with me. It is ALL property of Blizz and common sense tells me to just accept whatever help I can get and move on.
Ah yeah, I keep forgetting to check all of my reps to see if that happened to me, too. Haven’t been motivated to play much since all of this started.
For the record though, that’s an internal issue on their part. QA can only keep up and fix as many bugs as their team is given the manpower and time for, and I have few doubts that all the shuffling and layoffs have bode well for morale or output.
This is inflammatory. I have seen hoarders irl, I’ve cleaned out hoarder houses, it is nothing comparable and you’re delusional if you think so. Also,
Compensation for bugs like this is not unprecedented, as people in this topic have talked about having lost TCG items from bugs restored. A day of gametime recently given for tww launch issues. At some point you are not here to give an opinion and discuss the situation, and are simply here to whine about the other people affected and make blanket statements about them.
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What do you think a bug is?
You think that’s not a “screw-up?”
People getting upset over losing 20 years worth of items, due to no fault of their own, isn’t an overreaction.
I pity your employers with that mentality.
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Its not delusional. There are A LOT of wow hoarders. Just like irl, you fill your space with redundant items you should have gotten rid of long ago.
A lot of people, myself included, hold onto mats too long.
Like the amount of bc and wraths herbs and ores I purged during prepatch was insane.
Now imagine if I had a bank alt with a gbank and I had mats from every prof and from every xpac. (I know a few people that do this)
Most of those mats are insanely cheap on the ah, there is no real point in holding onto them.
But then you have items of personal value. Old relics, currencies, items that are only worth the grey value gold.
Granted there is no need to flame regardless, you can’t ignore the fact that hoarders exist in the game. And its silly to call someone delusional because you disagree.
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I mean, really, it should be down to Blizzard to be aware it may not go smoothly, and prepare for that. Like they obviously did not in this case.
It’s a bit sad that my first instinct now isn’t “it’s okay, Blizzard will fix it if it goes wrong” its … “oh heck, where am I going to store all that stuff until I know for a fact there’s no bugs that happen when they introduce this?”
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I think this fiasco has both 
The bug was dealt with … the screw up, so far, has not
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Lmao, yeah because pixels kept in a game can cause a fire hazard, toxic smell, etc.
It’s not the same, this is a stupid comparison.
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I forgot hoarding was defined as something that can cause fire, toxic smell, etc.
"A persistent difficulty discarding or parting with possessions because of a perceived need to save them."
Keeping a bunch of redundant items in game and filling up your inventory and banks vs keeping a bunch of redunant items irl and filling your home/space up with things.
Yea… not comparable at all.
Thanks Bliz, You restored 6 slots out of like 400 missing. I did not touch the Guild Bank for a long long time while waiting for it to be restored. almost 20 yrs of stuff. Stacks and Stacks of materials, rare crafting items, Things you just can’t get now. I still wanted to make some proto mounts as well and the mats gone.
Don’t leave anything of value in your guild bank.
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You are just hoarding that gear you have on. You don’t need it.
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Oh boy, a semantics argument and dictionary definition.
Collecting in a game is part of the gameplay. Majority of these items people were talking about having multiple tabs, yourself included in old reagents are things that still have use in the game, value, and fluctuating value at that. “Redundant” is your viewpoint on it because you value those items differently. Even unobtainable items like quiver bags sell because they’re a part of the history of the game you can’t get back on retail.
So yes, not comparable and not hoarding.
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This is what strikes me as somewhat of a hypocritical stance on Blizzard’s part from a financial viewpoint. Granted, you CANNOT convert any digital asset into actual real world currency, but it does allow you to keep from using real world currency to pay for a service that is, by a majority, paid for using real world currency.
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Players losing items of value that could be turned into digital currency due to a bug.
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Players using a bug to gain items of value that could be turned into digital currency.
Which of those two scenarios does Blizzard immediately “fix” once discovered?
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Hoarding is a mindset and an act.
You can hoard in-game and irl.
You clearly needed it since you think its an irl only thing.
Collecting in irl is just part of living.
Its wild how you can’t see the hypocrisy. Its the same act, but one is digital lol.
I need it just as much as you need the clothes on your back and shoes on your feet 
And because I see you typing away already. Please use the interwebs other than trolling on the forums. Google goes a long way.
"What is hoarding in gaming?
There are many ways of hoarding in games too, such as holding onto hundreds of potions that never get used, collecting thousands of stacks of wood that never get built into anything, or even just building up a pile of useless in-game money." "
Just one of many.
Omg, you have restored a bit of my faith in humanity! 
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I’m not the one ignoring the gameplay and mechanics part. Blizzard assigns a value to items in their game and want you to care about them. FOMO, unobtainables. Not hard to understand.
Nah, not the same. This whole argument isn’t even coming from a place of good faith when the original comment was making a blanket statement about people.
If you think what I’m saying is trolling then I have zero reason to care about any other response. This is, however, derailing the thread because people want to come here and be insulting. Move on.
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Oh my god. Thanks for the information. I will get bigger bags on a few alts and clear out all my banks temporarily before these changes arrive. I’m already sensing the next disaster.
There are a bit too many accidents lately, at least for my taste.
The broken AH where they made a big database mistake and people still didn’t get their items back that they’ve lost during these days.
The warband bank that just consumes stashed gold and makes it disappear.
The bugs where reputation and even honor levels just randomly reset and players didn’t get any compensation or fix for that.
Then the guild bank stuff that’s been devastating for a lot of players.
If I made that many severe mistakes at work I would not even be fired, I would go straight to jail. And no, I’m not saying anyone of the devs should go to jail before someone tries to distract from the actual arguments and put words in my mouth. What I’m saying is that there’s no small “oopsie” but there’s just no consistency or trust anymore when it comes to character data and clearly they’re doing extremely sloppy work and don’t even seem to have backups for anything.
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I 1000% agree. Anyone that is arguing against those that lost items here are missing the bigger picture.
Blizzard is not to be trusted. They have not given any confidence in their responses that they know what happened and how they intend to take steps to prevent future occurrences. Period. Anyone that is trusting them beyond this point - it’s shame on you as well as them.
Even if they can restore the things they are continuously breaking they have shown they do not intend to make players whole. Time is money, friends.
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Yeah at my company people would be going to jail for this level of incompetence regarding data too. Which, granted is because it’s a type of business that’s much more important than a gaming company. I’m not saying that should happen to game devs.
But SOMETHING needs to be done. It’s to the point where this expansion will either sink or swim depending on what they do for this issue. A LOT of people are quitting.
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So you ignored literally everything and chose to focus on unobtainables only huh?
I used old mats as an example as well.
And you can still hoard collectibles. The value is in the eyes of the beholder.
Some of my collectibles Im sure you would consider trash.
But I can also admit that I have hoarding tendencies in game.
Don’t even get me started on my chests in skyrim.
It is the same. Its a mindset and an act. The place that it occurs doesn’t matter.
Some people hoard condiments from fast food chains irl.
Some hoard every single scroll, book, gem they find in skyrim.
I was merely saying that hoarding exists in game. I can’t say I agree with really anything they said that corresponded with their hoarding comment. They were already being disengenuous about people being toxic.
You started it by arguing hoarding can’t exist in a game.
