If this is what people feel like they should do in order to succeed, and some, like myself, have been successful with it why does it matter?
While your opinions are valid and I don’t disagree, I disagree with how its coming off.
Not everyone can do the same thing for various reasons.
At the end of the day, you’re right. No one has any right how to tell you to play. Objectively, macros like that are not as consistent and don’t train awareness but if it’s better for you, by all means use it.
I consider myself a very good player and I actually don’t have a single mouseover macro. I also don’t use specific target macros (beyond focus or party 1/2).
Just be aware it won’t work if they spawn out of range. That’s the only caveat worth mentioning. Good luck on the pulls man.
Or if multiple eyes are up, which can happen after dealing with horrors.
Does it target a new eye each press. Or does it just reapply moon fire to the same eye?
I don’t know. I prefer to know what I hit and see it myself. Not sure if I’ve ever had 2 eyes up but I’d assume it would only target the closest.
Thank you. I just thought maybe this macro would help SOME people because I’ve seen it mentioned many times. As far as the macro not being effective if the eye is out of range… you would then be in the same predicament as if you didn’t have the macro, so I don’t understand that part of the arguement being made in this thread.
I am using this macro on my druid and still failing large. This one is a one button kill eyes and dps the bosses.
#showtooltip
/target Highlord Kruul
/target [noharm] Tormenting Eye
/target [noharm] Inquisitor Variss
/target [dead] Inquisitor Variss
/cast MoonfireHere is my skull bash, or Wild Charge (using shift or ctrl) Macro in one button. You can modify this macro to have Typhoon if you are smart.
#showtooltip Skull bash
/cast [nomod] Skull Bash
/cast [mod=shift,ctrl] Wild ChargeMacros make the game enjoyable, and especially multitasking…if your focusing on manually clicking something in a raid/group that means you can’t focus on other things. you could be helping with something else and doing your primary job at the same time.
The interrupt macro on boss and the mfire macro, without those it would be impossible for me to get felbear!
Its going to continually Target the closet eye
That’s what I figured.
Another issue with these types of macros is you’ll waste a GG proc on an eye, loosing valuable dps on the boss.
One word: Complacency.
With mouse over. Youre actively interacting/searching for your target. By doing so youre also aware of their position and can orient yourself accordingly.
With macros you aren’t. It takes the thought out of it. You become complacent and that’s when accidents can happen.
This has absolutely nothing to do with what we’re talking about. As a father, you have legitimate, referent, coercive, and reward power over your son. On these forums, you have none of that. No, you’re not being toxic to your son when parenting.
Yes, you are being toxic when implying that people are mindless automatons who are incapable of any decision-making such as understanding that there are possible faults with a target/moonfire macro.
The faults you mention are legitimate, but they are not epiphanic insights. We understand that if the eye is out of range, the spell will fail. We also understand that an over-reliance on these types of macros could diminish our awareness.
However, these types of macros have existed for decades. Macros exist to automate certain functions in order to make spells faster or easier to use. Placing spells on action bars and modifying keybinds to easier to reach keys serve a similar purpose. Should we eliminate keybinds and action bars in favor of clicking spells out of our spellbook? No, because that is ludicrous and a bad analogy.
But maybe you shouldnt be focusing on some thing? Like i said, macros let you do 2 things at once.
I’m trying to focus on my positioning, timers and dps on boss.
guess what? an eye is behind me out of screen and the macro got it.
Bingo /10char
This automation unlocked werebear last night with a mindless macro that I’ll never use again. GL everyone. I’m 6/10 LFR and picked up guardian a week before MT. If I can do it, so can you
Yup. Not saying it doesn’t work.
You keep trying to defend a point I never made.
Like I said numerous times.
If this works for you. Great.
I’m just giving advice on how these macros can cause other problems and suggested you use caution when using them.
Youre all acting like I kicked your dog. Lol
Ridiculous.
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I am robo-druid who used macro to defeat mage tower. How’s your runs going with all that gear and fancy mouseover macros ?
Can’t play wow at work…
That sorta thing is frowned upon.
Where would I even set up my computer all the way out here?
I’ll go ask my boss k?
I’d rather see myself target the adds and know I hit them instead of just blindly trusting a macro. As people have mentioned, there’s a few downsides: out of range, multiple adds, LoS. And there’s also the upsides of it where when it does work, it works. Cool Great.
But with the GCD, i can get an eye targeted, MF’d, and back to targetting Variss before my GCD runs out. No DPS loss, peace of mind KNOWING I got the add, and all is merry.
To each their own. I’m personally hindered by such macro’s and stay away from them myself.
You should see the set up I had for Heroic Rhyolith back in the day.
Left foot / right foot + adds.
I Put them right in the middle of my screen. Looked like an old school arcade game.
If you are able to do it all, and training yourself with mouse over macros, it does makes you better overall. Yep you are right.
I guess it’s an arms race. I’m sure there is a purist going “Bah macros! that’s cheating!”
I still manually mouse target Nethers, but i need that eye macro