11/03/2018 07:47 PMPosted by
Tewa
11/03/2018 06:19 PMPosted by
Komara
We're also solid in normal and heroic Uldir. Mythic is where we start to fall off as monks take center stage.
Actually, the most commonly used tank in Mythic Uldir is <drumroll> Death Knights.
I've been tracking the weekly tank numbers here:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769128575
Interesting. Not wishing any additional nerfs upon DKs in 8.1, but here's hoping we get something else besides ~11.5% more damage and more frequent stampede. Like a dps cooldown or mastery buff. And definitely the snare that was unceremoniously taken away in 8.0.
Ever have an expansion make you feel like rolled all the wrong classes?
Even if most ppl think they are in rough spot give Nihillthebear a look. He’s on twitch. He does like 15 16 keys ranked 1 in the region or something . He seems to have a grip on reality and knows what a bear can or can’t do lol.
Bears struggle with High Keys, plain and simple but I agree with Nihillthebear’s guide that by 8.2 we are going to be stupid OP as IF will be completely off the charts as we get more agility. As a raid tank even now I take the terrible thrash on Mythic Fetid as just keeping 1 IF up throughout the fight isn’t hard and at 383 (depending on trinkets) have no problem surviving. We are not the Meta tank as we were in Legion but we are also not in a spot where we should ride the bench in 8 - 11 Keys and Mythic Raids. If I had one request to improve Bears it would be to allow better synergy with our affinities.
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[quote=“Shiftingcow-zuljin, post:23, topic:7495, full:true”] If I had one request to improve Bears it would be to allow better synergy with our affinities.
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If they’d buff the affinities to the point where we could stay in our given specs form, while using our affinity abilities, we’d be okay.
I’d be okay if they’d even operate at 66% normal power while staying in Bear form, and getting 100% while shifting out of Bear and into proper form.
Only being able to run and heal myself once a minute until Cyclone comes off CD again sucks. Shifting out of Bear form is a killer ![:frowning:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=6" ":frowning:")
but if I could stay Bear and spam a weaker Regrowth/Swiftwind for emergency heals, that’d be okay.
Or in raids if you go kitty affinity, being able to stay Bear just in case and get your shred and rake and rip (which would eat up your rage in bear mode instead of energy), for a DPS increase when off tanking, or if you’re feeling frisky and trust your raids/tanks, you could go into Cat form for the full 100% damage from Rake/Rip/FB etc etc
I’ve healed Guardians on my main and they’ve been fine, i’ve healed them and they’ve really been a struggle. There is definitely some skill cap/gearing issues that can help out but the main issues in terms of class specifics don’t seem to be getting a fix in 8.1 - namely utility and mitigation.
Health is down from where we used to be - in my own Guardian gear at 368 ilvl i’m running at around 240k health unbuffed…but that seems like it is realistically about 20k lower than it should be for what bears have always been (and what you see DH’s running at). If we stack mastery then we lose out on too much else, but traits are also not exactly giving Guardians anything (other than grabbing the secondary traits for healing and absorbs), the main traits don’t add much of anything and even running dual Archives for the agility boost doesn’t net us close to the dodge increase we should be getting.
Utility is there but we lack the ability to use it. We need to be able to use some of our abilities without risking dying.
Damage is being addressed in 8.1 it would seem but I still think we will be on the low end of the tank list even after the changes. Much of resto druid problems in 8.0 have been smoothed out by gear, they scale well…but the other specs just don’t seem to have been solved yet.
Unless Blizz pull their finger out and get Guardian some much needed improvements then I don’t see the point of running tank or feral as a druid in 8.1 - Resto throughput isn’t getting the love it needs and it is still up for debate wether the Tranq nerf will be mitigated by the WG buff…it’s a slippery slope.