Gruesome Syringe for Resto

I was aiming to get a Gale of Shadows and an Unbound Changeling. I ended up getting them both, but before an Unbound Changeling dropped, I got a Gruesome Syringe and ran with that for a while.

I was actually surprised how well the Gruesome Syringe seemed to be working for me. When I eventually swapped it out for the Unbound Changeling, it didn’t really seem like an improvement. What is the most surprising is that when I plug my gear and logs into QE Live and sim my trinkets, it shows Gruesome Syringe beating Unbound Changeling in most cases, and even beating Gale of Shadows on some fights.

Wowhead has Gruesome Syringe as a B-tier trinket. Icy-Veins has it as a D-Tier trinket lol. That’s part of the reason why I assumed that it would be terrible. I can’t explain why it seems to be working well for me, unless I’m just giving it too much credit and the sims are wrong.

For other Resto Druids who have used a Gruesome Syringe trinket, what has your experience been?

1 Like

Insane trinket for mythic+ and raids as a rdruid, constantly does 5-6% of my healing in raids and gives me constant 15k int in mythic+.

1 Like

i hav one, and it’s listed as a C tier trinket for some reason on WoWhead…i didn’t follow the logic on why they listed it so low.

The primary stat stick isn’t ideal, but it’s easily doing 10-12% of my overall healing in M+.

I’d say it’s an excellent trinket to have if you end up grabbing one…you’ll probably end up replacing it as the season goes on and you get your hands on some BIS pieces…

but for now during the learning phase of the season, when people are taking massive damage from mistakes/gear issues, i think it’s been a great trinket to have. I expected it to be doing WAY less healing for what the writers have rated it. It’s probably good that it’s underrated, cuz I can see people trading it away or passing on it.

oh, is anyone else hunting for a gale of shadows? :face_exhaling:

The explanation seems to be that “the Intellect proc is actually better than the healing proc”.

But the Intellect proc only occurs if the heal proc goes unused for 15 seconds. The heal proc gets used automatically if anyone drops below 70%, so the only way to see an intellect proc is to keep everyone above 70% for 15 seconds or more. But at the same time, if healing is light enough to keep everyone above 70% for 15+ seconds, then that’s probably not when you will benefit the most from the Intellect proc either.

That logic does seem to hold true as far as the intellect proc is concerned.

On Sikran Heroic for example, “Volatile Serum” (Heal proc) had a 23.5% uptime. “Gruesome Intellect” (Intellect proc) never procced once during the entire fight.

On Rasha’nan Heroic, “Volatile Serum” (Heal proc) had a 38.26% uptime. “Gruesome Intellect” (Intellect proc) had a 9% uptime, but that uptime occurred mainly during one phase of the fight where healing was lighter.

So the Intellect proc does seem pretty much useless. I just wonder if maybe it’s undervaluing the heal proc?

On both of those fights I did about a million HPS, and parsed a 97. Gruesome Syringe did about 4% of my healing in both cases. 4% seems pretty lackluster, but comparing it directly to the Unbound Changeling is difficult. The Gruesome Syringe doesn’t seem to be holding me back, but I’m not sure if 4% and some Crit is worth the loss of the stats I could get if I equipped my Unbound Changeling instead.

The trinket is a mythic+ trinket, the extra intellect is huge for extra damage convokes and the like.

1 Like

It does seem good, healing when you need healing and int to boost damage when you don’t need healing.

I tested this trinket quite a bit, and i had really good uptime with the intellect buff, so idk…groups are getting a lot better at dealing with the trash lately, so that probably has a lot to do with it, since really the only time i really need the heal is on certain bosses.

I like it until I get the grim batol one