Growl is Not A Taunt

[Dalorn-eitrigg]

Common mistake. Aspect of the pack is much better.

[Naham-argent-dawn]

If the tank is bad, or poorly geared, I’d turn on Cower.

[Stoneblade-kiljaeden (Stoneblade)]

@Naritha-kargath

Tank: “Hey huntard!!!, turn your pet growl off!!”

Get ready for it, cause it’s gunna be said a lot.

Yeah. One thing this thread has highlighted is no matter how many times I say that the hunter is fully responsible for their actions, it doesn’t really matter what the hunter’s original intent is, the bias against the class is super strong, despite every class and role having it’s own share of good and bad players.

[Tarrz-tichondrius]

If you started a thread about Shamans using Eartshock and Rockbiter for DPS and it’s no big deal, or Warriors DPSing in defensive stance and prioritizing HS, I’d have the same reaction.

It was your choice to focus on Hunters. Don’t blame the thread for responding to your subject.

Man you really need to take a philosophy class or something. Logic fail.

[Keritanima-proudmoore]

@Stoneblade-kiljaeden

the bias against the class is super strong, despite every class and role having it’s own share of good and bad players.

And that reflexive moronic bias is why I will not be playing a Hunter in Classic unlike in Vanilla. Tank makes a bad pull it’s the Hunters fault. Priest screws up his healing because he wants to DPS it’s the Hunters fault. The Lock fears a mob into room full of mobs it’s the Hunters fault.

[Tareir-arthas (Tareir)]

@Stoneblade-kiljaeden

if the tank’s at all competent with his threat, and the hunter is competent in always attacking the tank’s target, growl shouldn’t prove to be much of a problem even if accidentally left on.

That’s two too many "if"s for me.

At any rate, if the hunter accidentally left growl on for more than a pull or two, they’re probably quickly departing the zone of competence (so likely not assisting off the tank).

[Viera-blackwater-raiders (Viera)]

@Keritanima-proudmoore

And that reflexive moronic bias is why I will not be playing a Hunter in Classic unlike in Vanilla. Tank makes a bad pull it’s the Hunters fault. Priest screws up his healing because he wants to DPS it’s the Hunters fault. The Lock fears a mob into room full of mobs it’s the Hunters fault.

Lol it’s true.

I plan to play my hunter solo for the most part, only going into dungeons if friends are online. Maybe I’ll name him Scapegoat.

[Charax-emerald-dream (Charax)]

@Stoneblade-kiljaeden

Not at all. The hunter is completely responsible for managing his pet. I’m just saying that when it does happen, it’s less of an issue than in retail where the pet will pull off the tank each and every time it growls.

With that said, the thread’s getting pretty full of hate towards hunters, and as a guy that tanks, trust me, I get it. I hated hunters for a long time. But the moment I rolled one, I gained a massive appreciation for how complex the class actually when played well. I just want people to place responsibility where it’s due.

If the Hunter’s being a jerk and pulling for you, by all means, kick him. But having been on both sides of the coin, I want people to realize that there are equally bad tanks that are just as egotistical. It’s not okay to let them get away for being jerks anymore than it is any other member of the party.

Thing is, the tank is spending rage to manage threat on all mobs (and not just the kill target), so if a lazy hunter wants to make the tanks job harder unnecessarily, he deserves to be called out.

[Keritanima-proudmoore]

The 3 things I mentioned actually happened to me in PUGs during Vanilla and is why all way to this day dislike intensely PUGing dungeons. I even had a case where I never pulled the pet out and had it blamed for bad pulls. The bottom line is if you play Hunter and you PUG no matter how good you are (Hell you could be JellyBean) you will get blamed for everything that goes wrong in any instanced situation. 5 man, MC, Warsong doesn’t matter it is all the Hunter’s fault. I always wondered if a PUG wipes and no Hunter is there, is it still the Hunter’s fault? And always came up with yes, because you weren’t there to blame.

[Stoneblade-kiljaeden (Stoneblade)]

@Charax-emerald-dream

Thing is, the tank is spending rage to manage threat on all mobs (and not just the kill target), so if a lazy hunter wants to make the tanks job harder unnecessarily, he deserves to be called out.

Absolutely.

[Cabernét-destromath]

So as a Tank, I got not problem with a growling pet - it actually lets me use rage on damage hehe. But just be sure to dismiss your little guy when jumping down a ledge or something.

[Charax-emerald-dream (Charax)]

Well, if a mob hits the pet instead of the tank, the tank gets less rage.

[Kazrak-illidan-279244]

@Coldfate-perenolde

Why would you want to increase your chances of your pet dieing?

Maybe he’s a serial killer in training?

[Phinderbangs-kiljaeden]

idk, when i hear a growl makes me hit harder. you sure it isn’t a taunt?

[Pychelle-darrowmere]

No, I refuse to dismiss my stealthy cat in a dungeon. If rogues can stealth to the group, so can cats! Fix the game!

[Rözen-the-scryers (Rözen)]

Just turn it off. You shouldn’t be trying to increase your pets threat on a target.

[Bonecrow-the-underbog (Bonecrow)]

You’ve never done Wailing Caverns?

[Dazshanis-thunderlord]

@Qthulhu-khadgar

I ask the Hunter to stand behind me, and pull, and I would snag the aggro as the mob or the boss went by.

At the start of every pug in vanilla, I would message the tank with “You mind if I pull?”

Their response would always tell me how the run would go. A good warrior is very thankful when a decent hunter can pull, and a good hunter is set up with a pulling shot that lets the tank get aggro back by essentially spitting on the mob.

[Weiserwolf-thunderlord]

To be fair it is a taunt if you leave it on in a raid. You are taunting your main tank though.

[Doomgor-tichondrius]

50 DKP MINUS! You know it.