Group Loot.....bad!

[Snozy-thrall]

You would be wrong as usual.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

You’re already wrong about something and that’s enough for me to know it’d make your world collapse.

[Meinteil-frostmourne]

@Snozy-thrall

You don’t know.

@Snozy-thrall

You don’t know how it works.

@Snozy-thrall

You have zero credibility to comment a valid opinion on raiding because …you don’t raid.

@Snozy-thrall

Stop making stuff up.

@Snozy-thrall

PS you don’t even partake in the system so you don’t have any valid improvement ideas.

@Snozy-thrall

He literally doesn’t play the game. Just pays to troll.

@Snozy-thrall

You’re just a troll at this point

@Snozy-thrall

Notice I only invalidate people who try to pretend they have an informed opinion?

@Snozy-thrall

Yet you fail to comprehend that the views I take are based on how the game is designed to be played.

This dudes whole argument is that everyone else is stupid and he knows more. While never debating an issue or giving examples to back up his claims… HE IS A TROLL, everyone that is sick of him just report him for trolling so we can have a civil convo without having to worry about someone trying to discredit every little detail about every player he doesnt agree with…

[Snozy-thrall]

@Meinteil-frostmourne

This dudes whole argument is that everyone else is stupid and he knows more

I mean this is somewhat true. Most people here arent that smart.

@Meinteil-frostmourne

While never debating an issue or giving examples to back up his claims…

Literally have done that multiple times.

@Meinteil-frostmourne

HE IS A TROLL,

Not a troll just because you cant refute facts.

@Meinteil-frostmourne

everyone that is sick of him just report him for trolling so we can have a civil convo without having to worry about someone trying to discredit every little detail about every player he doesnt agree with…

False reporting gets you sent on a vacation as well.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Elliorra-proudmoore

Literally was anyone asking for group loot to come back? Anyone at all?

I’d expect a mythic raider to recognize that GL IS the compromise. It’s a single system that can be functionally used as ML, or functionally used as PL depending on what the guild/group wants.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Meinteil-frostmourne

HE IS A TROLL

Bloody is the one who has admitted that he wants blizzard/wow to fail for some reason.

[Meinteil-frostmourne]

Snoty is the one who never debates though. He just claims everyone is stupid. I can respect someone who I may not agree with as long as they make their case clear and speak their honest opinion. But when every post they make is “You do not know what your talking about” or “You are not smart” are not arguments and instead are just insults because they just want to degrade and inflame the other posters.

[Hockeybalboa-khazgoroth]

@Raelic-blackhand

Personally, I feel like enchanting mats and tmogs are necessary too.

Agreed, so many times I NEED that helm to complete the set. My definition of need is different to others

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

Blizzards business model is holding the IP back, not pushing it forward.

[Meinteil-frostmourne]

Not sure thats their intended model.
But the sheer number of things they have done over the years lends credit to the argument… LOL

The amount of revenue this IP makes and the clear lack of innovation makes so many angry… I mean FFS, I have been asking for the ability to dye/change armor color on armor as far back as Wrath the first go around. As well as transmogging gear. Which we did finally get transmogs in Cata. But they would not have done that if LoTR Online had not had the feature.

While its nice to see new mount design get added to DF. Anyone that played GW2 clearly sees how much of that was ripped from that game. Which I like do not get me wrong, but this is stuff that should have been in the game 10 years ago.

WoW makes more money then most all the MMOs out combined. Yet innovates the least, actually they never innovate. They just take ideas from everyone else.

[Kanaman-stormrage]

How does bringing back this old outdated system help anyone besides those looking to cheese the system.

Oh no! People were getting items they earned in a dungeon. Lets break it so others can impact your chances.

[Kiôskara-area-52]

Group loot is fine in organized mythic raiding, but nowhere else. Get rid of it for anything that isn’t a preorganized guild group. Seriously.

Group loot where everyone can roll on crap is not the same as personal loot that you can just trade freely. It’s not healthy for pugs, do not force it upon them.

Edit - And even then, group loot has the one insanely serious flaw of things dropping that NO ONE CAN USE. Do you plan to do anything about this Blizzard?

[Padgarre-lightbringer (Padgarre)]

If anyone rolls need on this you’re getting kicked!

[Bloodyfozz-thaurissan]

yep they brought it back i call it troll roll u see the item u want u have to wait because people wont click right away and u are waiting a few mins oh and the chest loots are just as bad had someone clicking open stopping others from getting loot i would love the what that had in place before for lfr let the hardcore have there masterloot and gdkps i think alot would like personal back for lfr

[Orren-chogall]

I’m loving the change back to Need/Greed. Getting gear feels more rewarding.

[Bairon-azuresong]

It’s not the same. I’m getting less gear overall. This is so far my least favorite thing in Dragonflight

I already disliked raids because I felt like I barely got any gear before compared to the amount of time and effort that was put in but now it’s a joke. The best part about raid is the great vault now… which is truly sad.

[Birdstabber-mankrik]

Not exactly. PL you couldn’t trade upgrades. With this you can certainly be put in the scenario where you give up the loot or get a gkick. You would have to be a in a pretty trashy guild with a scummy leader, but still. Certainly happens and more cutting edge/etc. guilds will sim and distribute to the greatest benefit with skill consideration.