Group loot

[Prismriver-faerlina]

this. GL itself was basically a compromise so the devs could take out loot funneling.

[Shïvana-scarlet-crusade (Shïvana)]

@Kailhots-sargeras

0% the same thing.

Personal loot, the game rolls bebind the scenes. There were iLvl restrictions, which helped and could help again.

So the part where an oveegeared player. An still get loot is different how?
Please explain how ilvl restrictions matter in this topic?
Big overgeared player gets lfr loot. Stick to that.

@Kailhots-sargeras

And this slippery wkope

Thats not a slippery slope.

@Kailhots-sargeras

Loot rules need to change. The need/greed system is broken when the people who actually NEED the drops done receieve them.

You know who didnt get loot in PL? 4/5 players.

@Kailhots-sargeras

Ie, someone with a heroic mace drom VotI in LFR being able to roll need on the 30ilvl lower same mace when it drops and winning just to vendor it after appearance. Meanwhile there is a player who is 30ilvl lower on their mace, rolls need, juat to watch a selfish pig vendor an upgrade they didnt actually need.

Cough cough happens with PL.

[Derrida-kilrogg]

Loot system seems fine to me… the guy who has gone 0/25 on WB’s so far. YMMV

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Einnom-barthilas

Solution is easy. Give all transmog colours for all of that piece of gear lower than what you have when you win it. Eg win a heroic shoulders, get the normal and LFR appearance as well.

I hate people rolling on any gear for transmog. Playing dress ups like a two year old doesn’t belong in the game

I’m all for letting receiving a higher version of an item unlock all lower versions’s transmog.

Would be great for farming old raid transmog as well.

[Kailhots-sargeras]

In personal loot. Youre not openly needing on gear bud. If you cant see the difference youre the problem.

[Shïvana-scarlet-crusade (Shïvana)]

Yes you are. Everyone in pl gets rolls towards gear.

Unless youre refering to the sad idea that visibly seeing your loss of roll is worse than… Just not winning.

In personal loot, everyone in considered a need.

Feel free to show how you can opt out of rolling, or lower your priority of roll with personal loot.

[Gay-dalvengyr]

@Dendritus-moon-guard

There’s a massive difference between an overgeared person getting a downgrade from the boss via PL vs an overgeared person rolling need on something they don’t need and taking it from people that could use it.

PL doesn’t pit players against each other for loot, GL does. GG.

Its exactly the same, if you all roll need, you pretty much turns GL into PL, PL just roll it behind the screen (basically assume everyone is rolling need).

[Moob-remulos]

Genuine question, because I am curious. So with PL, it just assumes everyone is rolling need right? Does it factor in upgrades or tier or anything? I saw a blue post about some changes and I was wondering if there is an actual difference in the function of personal loot versus group loot besides rolling need/greed and visibility of who rolled.

[Gay-dalvengyr]

@Moob-remulos

Does it factor in upgrades or tier or anything?

It doesn’t, you can still get duplicates and downgrade in PL.

[Kailhots-sargeras]

And restrictions incoming in
10.0.5. More to come after, point good guys.