Grobbulus is my home!

WoW Classic Cataclysm Classic Discussion
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Grobbulus has been my home since Day 1 of WoW Classic. Grobbulus was a unique and amazing experience. For someone who enjoys both RP and PvP, it was the best place to plant my roots, play the game, and meet friends. Grobbulus was my home when it was Medium population and Grobbulus is still my home now that it’s Full.

Historically, RP-PvP servers have been treated with a sort of reverence by Blizzard, with any changes to them only being mirrored by changes to fellow RP-PvP servers. (Such as merging Twisting Nether with Ravenholdt.)

But suddenly, this philosophy went completely out of the window and Blizzard decided to open up the ability for all servers to transfer to Grobbulus. With its near perfect Horde-Alliance balance, suddenly there was a huge influx of players (many of whom have zero interest in roleplay) and the server quickly became a mega server overnight.

To compound this problem, you allowed anyone with a subscription to create a brand new high level Death Knight on any server, compounding two problems: oversaturation of players in queue and oversaturation of the Death Knight class. Retail refuges, bored with content draught, have a quick and easy way to jump onto Grobbulus and exacerbate these problems.

Blizzard, YOU have created this problem. YOU are the reason that I have to wait 3+ hours a night to login. And now YOU have the audacity to ask ME to transfer off after allowing unmitigated transfers onto the server. No, I will not be transferring off. Grobbulus is my home. YOU need to fix this problem that YOU created.

Now, I hate when people complain about something without actually broaching a solution. Here is my solution: Create a temporary server named Sulubborg. Allow Grobbulus players to COPY their characters to Sulubborg. COPY, not transfer. Grob players can opt to play on this temporary server until the queue times naturally reside. Once this occurs, merge the servers together and override the original character that is on Grobbulus. In this way, I can keep my characters and their names on Grob, while still playing the game and advancing my character, safe in the knowledge that the move is risk free and that I will eventually return to Grobbulus with all of my progress intact.

There’s your solution. We know that there is the capability to copy characters; you charged us for it in the past.

Whatever the solution chosen, please fix this issue and fix it quickly.

Sincerely,
A devoted World of Warcraft player

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I think the thing that baffles me most about the new servers they have created is that no other RP servers have been created. It’s a unique part of the Grobbulus experience and people not moving to new servers to reduce the queue make it nearly impossible to get into this experience of an RPPVP server.

All of this because tech can’t or won’t do anything. I just want to play with my friends.

I like your suggestion though as I would be happy to play in that scenario of a copied character with the community.

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I was told that during server merger they gave entire Herod only one choice to go - Grobbulus. Single faction PvP servers are most toxic servers in wow.
Also they didn’t lock Grobbulus before pre-patch and did it only AFTER population exploded. I bet cashing those $25 transfers was more important for them than that “social aspect of the game” they promote only on paper.

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It was grob players advertising on the forums for people to go to the server it was just a couple months ago that grob players were boasting that they were successful in making grob the only balanced pvp server.

Those posts obvously had reprecussions that the server is dealing with because u cant predict how many players transferred their that are just retail players.

So once again not a blizz made issue but a player made issue for putting up a huge banner that read grobbulus open for business.

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The chance of some people seeing the boasts causing the massive influx of population instead of it being due to free xfers to the server? Mental gymnastics dude.

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It’s not Blizzards fault; it’s the non RP players fault for not being able to make a single balanced PvP server. The non RPers get ganked once and cry than leave for a 99% servers so they can be safe.

The issue isn’t Blizzard; the issue is non RPers just being so soft skinned they can’t handle open world PvP. It’s a “they think they do but they don’t” situation. They thought they wanted to run rogues on Herod and Incendius; until they got camped; so they destroyed the servers instead of rallying the player base like we do on grobb.

The min maxxers/PvP Andy’s who couldn’t handle it destroyed WoW Classic.

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If they don’t like PVP then Grobbulus is the worst place for them and they’d quit faster than on any server. You make no sense dude.

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Same. Grobb Mob from day 1, and I’m not going anywhere!

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There was a ton of proper PvP servers for the riff raff to go to before they all chickened out and went to 99% Megas instead

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Which means Grobbulus pop would have declined. It has increased because people were allowed to free transfer to the server during consolidation.

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yeah its terrible transfers to here just bring their normal pvp server philosophy and it ruins the vibe

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This is similar to the suggestion that I just posted about adding temporary, mirrored overflow servers for those with queues (like Grobb 3, Grobb 3, etc) that you can move freely between as the queues permit. I believe I’ve seen this done on other games so I can’t imagine why it wouldn’t work here. Grobb, in particular, should have something like this given that it’s not reasonable to expect rpers that play there to move to regular pvp servers, simply to avoid the queues that Blizz is seemingly too inept to remedy themselves.

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While the situation is still far from ideal, it IS getting better.

Queue is about 9k right now, whereas it was 14-15k last Sunday at this same time.

Progress is being made, slowly but surely.

Blizzard has already stated they have designs on doing away with the concept of mega-servers. They will never outright break up the mega-servers, but they will do everything in their power to make transferring off of the mega-servers more lucrative and appealing to us as players.

So don’t expect them to do anything that makes playing on Grobbulus as a mega-server tolerable. They are specifically relying on these long queues to get more of Grobb’s population to transfer off to other servers, so that eventually we aren’t a mega-server anymore.

Just how it is.

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It’ll get worse after launch. People are done leveling their DKs or getting gear. Some have quit until the invasions are over. Trust me…it’ll get way worse when launch happens.

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Yeah, though I think thanks to Blizzard locking Grobb down properly and still offering the free xfers, we at least won’t hit 20k queues at launch.

We were 100% on the path to doing so before they locked Grobb down.

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One good thing about being locked; as bots are banned they won’t be able to create new characters here. Queues will get better for sure.

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That is a good thing, yep. We also got locked down right before Blizz announced the retail mount for leveling a DK through their starting zone, so thank god for that.

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Many, and possibly most, were nearly forced to transfer to Grobb. My original server/faction was medium pop and still showed 1000+ characters in raid logs but when Blizzard announced free transfers that dropped to a couple hundred within a month and went to zero shortly after.

Blizzard will force people off mega servers then in a few months they will collect the transfer fees for people moving off dead servers. Finally, after most of the people who will pay for a transfer have they will consolidate servers again.

How do people not know the how and why of this cycle?

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Same. My stance with blizzard: hate, but I’m not transferring off my server and off my guilds for over two years.

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First off, some of the proposed solutions in this thread are good. In a way it’s too bad Blizzard has chosen to take the exact direction they have. Maybe things will change.

You should definitely stay on Grobbulus. So should the other people like you. IMO that should be anyone who embraces the RP PVP server spirit and everything that is about.

However:

This is true too.

There is a lot of hatred being thrown at people from regular PVP servers lately from “day one Grobb” players. A lot of that is frustration about these queues. I didn’t see this hatred before.

However, there have been recruitment campaigns too from the people on Grobbulus to get people to the server. The recent big one was directed at the horde from dead servers, who were welcome with open arms. I thought this was awesome to see and very community-building and respectful.

Now, these same people are being treated like the devil.

To the people with this double standard: In real life do you typically want something, find someone who has that, use that person and then once their use is served treat them like garbage until they go away? That’s what you’re doing here.

To be fair there are WAY too many people on regular PVP servers (like 80%) who are just there to min-max, improve their numbers etc. Yeah, that doesn’t belong on an RP PVP server. It doesn’t even belong on a regular PVP server. That belongs on a PVE server, “but PVE servers don’t have people who perform well enough” THAT is the attitude problem, and THAT is the problem that has caused so many PVP servers to turn into Benediction, Faerlina and to a lesser extent Whitemane.

Is that every PVP server player? No, it is not. it is the 80%. There are people in the other 20% who do not fit that mold, and you are wrong to tell them that they are part of the 80%.

Maybe nudge people to leave for a better fit instead of criticizing them. When you outright criticize you just look like a selfish full-of-yourself jerk.

I’ve spent over a year on these forums trying to help ALL servers, listening to peoples stories from ALL servers dying etc, and doing my best to show nothing but empathy to people and combat forum trolls, a lot of which hate me for doing it. Yeah I’m not perfect, I have my things, but I’ve tried to help. I continue to try to help my <3 server that also died to this day after trying to save it from death before and failing. I still plan to level this toon I post on for Wrath even if the server is low pop and help tank or heal dungeons etc.

I do not judge people based on the WoW server they started on. I judge who they are as people. Why would anyone not do this? Why make sides for every single issue on these forums and attack people for that alone instead of for who they are?

So yeah this is ranting but I want to say it anyway. Be nice and nudge people away by appealing to their wants, or suggest stuff like the suggestions in this thread to help with the queue. Don’t be mean to people.

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