Exactly it is insanly difficult to walk past mobs and not pull them or use a invis pot!!! Its just to difficult, blizzard needs to stop catering to the 1%!!!
I hate skipping in M+. I’ve just been burned too many times by the group messing up the skip, or we wipe and have to somehow skip by the same pack(s) again, or someone doesn’t have an invis pot available.
I guess it really depends on the dungeon. With season 4 it’s fine not to skip but something like HoA back in season 1-3 it’s acceptable to always skip the adds between 1st and 2nd boss
I understand skips in like 20+ but I agree, not necessary in 15s. You can probably pull 130% in a 15 and still time it with competent and geared players.
Delete it and replace it with what? Faceroll Dungeons? That’s more boring.
Toxic environment exist when the game is competitive… requires appropriate gear level, effort, planning and strategy. If it’s a faceroll dungeon, Bosses/trashes would be erased like they’re nothing, there wont be toxicity but it would be VERY BORING. I prefer the current state.
Those who want faceroll dungeons, they could find it on other MMO’s like that Tweeb game. Even my 10 year old nephew could join it and Bosses would be killed regardless. Good thing, M+ is not that.
Generally skips are fine, I do think that this thread is more about annoying back seat tanks who might or might not know what they are talking about. I get you, those players exist and can be some of the most obnoxious folks around. I’ve seen people pull unnecessary packs because its on their route or get all up in arms because the junkyard route or the lower kara route isn’t the one they like. I once got told midway through trixie nano trash after killing gobbamek that we had to kill gunker next because the hard mode machine would go to gunker even though it always goes to hk after the 2nd boss kill.
Skips themselves though are fine, respect to people who trust pugs enough to do them successful skips are nice, I view it as high risk high reward myself…
Tell them to toxic players who have issues on skips. I dont die on skips. Skips is dont care on me becoz I would just Turtle, run for cover then feign death. Although I am affected when we fail on timer becoz the stupid PuGs cant do the skip correctly.