Greater Pyro

That 15 second cooldown on Greater Pyroblast stinks. it already takes forever to cast isn’t that enough of a control on it?

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Good. I was sick of seeing people just sit and spam it and only use that spell in bgs.
It deserved a cd.

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I had definitely gotten lazy with the gpie. Hard to find motivation to get better at the class when even if I did it wouldnt have compared to the power of non stop gpie/shimmer during cast/gpie/kick/burst finish. And in bgs it was inargubaly best for your team to literally just get next to healer/gpie/gpie/gpie/gpie/gpie/die/get next to healer/gpie/gpie/gpie/gpie/gpie/gpie

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Mfw i never played bfa fire and now I love SL fire because I can chunk somebody for 35% of their health with one successful cast

I dont even notice the cooldown because I know how to hit my other buttons until its ready again

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I’ve always tried meteor with BFA but now I’m interested

It was always easy to tell how many mages were in any given BG by counting the number is simultaneous gpies were coming towards me.

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Curious. How sick were you in warlocks were spamming Chaos Bolt in sub 1 second casts? Dealing even greater damage than a Greater Pyro?

Honestly, I don’t play Fire, but surely you can see the non-sense both specs had (Fire mages and Destro locks).

Greater Pyro should work on a charge system. I think 15 seconds could work well, but give it two charges with a 15 second recharge. That way, you can bank two at any given time (Good luck getting them out at 4.5 second casts though!)

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Chaos bolt has a resource cost to prevent spamming and interrupting it is both easier because warlocks lack shimmer and more punishing because it locked them out of all spell schools. Mages can carry on polymorphing, spellstealing, shimmering, novaing, ring of frosting, etc. when a kick connects.

I agree with your charge suggestion though. Two charges are sufficient in preventing mages from falling into a one button playstyle.

If thats true it’s fantastic. They should also reduce the greater heal holy priests have.

Destro needs to build up soul shards and weave rotation to allow maximum haste. At most, they’re only getting 2 chaos bolts out at once unless they have some sort of shard refund or if they have infernal up. Ignoring that CB could still be blocked by mitigations.
Not to mention to get it to hit more than a GPB, you have to take a talent that increases the damage but prevents you from duplicating it via Havoc.

GPB is spammable, fire can take honor talent to gradually increase their range beyond 40 yards, use shimmer if they need to blink to stay in range, and deals a flat 35% of max health.

I loved facing destro locks in PvP. As an aff lock it was super easy to lock them down when they start casting, then just load em up on DoTs and watch them panic as their lifebar disappeared.
The new ones were especially delicious coz they think they’re just gonna blow everything up and then you up owning them.

says the warlock LOL chaos bolt is stronger and faster get over yourself it should have a 15 sec CD too. I play frost mage so I’m happy fire got nerfed

  1. Warlocks have a spell that makes the uninterruptable what is better than shimmer.
  2. Chaos bolt hits harder.
  3. Chaos bolt is a faster cast.
  4. Chaos bolt hits multiple targets.
  5. I’m happy fire got nerfed now locks need a nerf too
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Are you earnestly comparing a 3-minute defensive CD to shimmer?

The issue with gpie wasn’t that it hit too hard or was cast too quickly, the issue was that it was spammable. It encouraged mages to backline spam one ability rather than a damage rotation that consists of multiple.

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and if you couldn’t counter a 3.8 sec cast you’re pretty bad

In what, 1v1? It was problematic in teamfight scenarios and for the final time, made fire mage gameplay far too simple. No spec’s kit should every facilitate a damage rotation that consists of one ability.

You’re pretty defensive for someone who agrees with the change.

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Why is it I see “G Pyro takes WAY too long to cast” since it came out but almost every PVP video on Youtube shows mages getting off 3-4 in a row without issues? Before Pre patch that is.

On that note I do agree a 4.5 second cast with a 15 second cooldown is a bit punishing considering all the CC in the game.

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RIP Poly > GPy > Ring > GPy > DB > FireBlastFireBlastPyroFireBlastPyro > u ded son … even though it was an amazing combo :rofl:

Hated it in Beta. Hate it now. They ask for feedback, but don’t really want it. All the boot-lickers in here back them up but I have no idea why. If melee can pop cooldowns and stand in the open training a healer, they deserve to catch a couple of GPies.

if you were losing to a mage only casting gpie I feel sorry for you

Did you mean it when you said this:

or are you secretly upset that you’re required to use multiple abilities now?