Great Vault - Tokens Count Against Cap?

Am I alone here, or is it a complete kick in the pants when you max out your vault, get nothing, have to then take tokens, only to have crests from said tokens count against the weekly cap???

Essentially, yet someone who gets a great item also gets all their crests.

Can this be considered??

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Why on earth would you take anything but a socket?

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Take sockets or gold, always. Only people who would even consider crests are those who already have sockets but never cap crests.

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Bcz I have nothing worth socketing at the moment. Been having brutal luck on rolls, and trying to upgrade what I get from M+ and crafting…

At this point, the agility is a better upgrade.

Every other season, I only take sockets.

Still - the point remains, why have crests on the loser prize count against the cap??

but you will at some point, right?

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Did you not craft wrists?

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At some point doesn’t help me increase my DPS/etc and not get benched.

Socket = 103 sub stats

45 Crests right now can upgrade your weapon x3 which is 32 Main stat x 3.

Which makes more sense? 103 Substat or 96 Agil\Int\Str ??

Even non weapons, 45 crests can get you 13-22 Main stat per level.

So a socket it really better early?

Troll…

I did craft wrists. What’s your point?

I’m still down 50% of my weekly cap.

Others who got gear they can use get 100% of their cap+ get gear upgrade.

I’d take the socket and just do dungeons for the crests. The socket is much more limited.

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Lmao gets benched on heroic raid and thinks crests will save him.

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Socket your wrists and farm the crests… it’s not hard to understand.

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You should have bought a socket and put it on bracers instead of buying crests

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Aren’t people like… Done with wyrm crests this week anyway if they capped and didn’t burn them on 463-470 upgrades? I can’t see opening vault for wyrms ever being the correct move unless you never do content that awards wyrms as standard, even if they werent part of the cap.

Well that was a bit uncalled for.

Yeah I don’t care enough to do the math but if you only used wyrms on 470+ gear you are capped.

I think there is +/- a couple depending on if your getting aspects and used those to craft (or the free wyrm from fyrakk quest).

I kinda glossed over this but looking back…

We’re on what? 360 wyrm crests at this point, so even if you were as wasteful as possible and upgraded 463s to 476, then got 467s and upgraded those to 483, you’d have enough crests to fully upgrade 6 items (More if you started with 470s) minimum. That’s gun, 2 trinkets, helm, chest, and legs which is all the highest value for ilvl slots you’ve got.

So if we’re going to do an actual meaningful comparison, 45 crests of upgrades on a slot you don’t already have maxed is at best 19 int and a handful of secondaries. 103 secondaries blows that out of the water.

Your logic is deeply, deeply flawed. Next time socket those wrists.

360 crests, 15-16 slots, minus 2 for free Enchanted crests, minus 1 for conservatively getting 1/3 usable vaults gives us 12-13.

30 wyrms per slot, minus 30 for the season reward tier piece helm, gives us 330-360 depending if you use a 1h or 2h.

So yes, done or very close to it. Even with bad vaults and no raid drops.

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Dw I kept the receipts.

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Right or wrong decision here, its super clear people arent interested in asking why it doesnt tell you it counts against the cap, or why they would even offer such a thing, when they have the opportunity to berate someone for making what they think is the wrong decision.

Because it’s very simple and pretty much common sense if you think about it for more then 0 seconds, snap pick coins, buy crests then run to complain.

You aren’t helping yourself by not grabbing a gem. One gem is like 300 dps last time I simmed myself.

You will eventually get the crests to upgrade the weapon/other item through playing. But that gem slot can ONLY be obtained through the Great Vault tokens or getting EXTREMELY lucky when an item drops for it to roll a socket.