My point still stands.
8 of every 9 people who have cleared mythic uldir is horde.
That gives you a huge advantage.
Your crying about the one advantage alliance has. You want to know Why it exists. I provided your answer.
The Horde has overwhelming advantages elsewhere.
You can try all you want but until those advantages remain horde will have an advantage in war mode so blizzard provided extra incentives for alliance to go in.
And I’m willing to bet that of that 89%, 95% were Horde the whole time and never swapped over from Alliance.
Edit: Because we have the prettier elves!
Really? So you somehow think that all the best guilds in the world magically chose horde just to be horde and didn’t choose it for the inherent advantages horde had?
Wow. Okay. You’re so far gone you can’t even be logical about it.
I’m done here. For anyone whose just showing up. Don’t bother these horde can’t even be shown numbers and understand.
I haven’t once cried that the alliance has the advantage with the warmode bonus?
If I recall correctly, I said remove the bonuses entirely, and also said that I don’t give a damn what their bonus is. I’m just saying that claiming the horde has all of the good players because of racials alone is a really weak argument.
No. It’s an argument based on facts. Why else would almost 90% of all guilds that have cleared mythic uldir be horde? Doesn’t that seem a little imbalanced?
What are the odds that basically 9 of every 10 top guilds magically chose horde?
Or did they choose horde because of the bonuses the faction had. Like better racials, better recruiting pool, etc.
My argument makes a heck of a lot more sense then yours.
Simple, like I said. We have the prettier elves. Alliance races all look weird.
And you guys said yourselves that the Alliance tends to have more casual players, so the people that want to raid at a higher level will inevitably end up going Horde to do what they want to do.
But anyways, you said you were done, so have a good night! Been fun.
The alliance having more casual players is a result of top guilds leaving for horde Einstein.
Do you think method magically became a,super guild just by being a horde guild?
No. They were great to begin with.
Them and other top guilds changes to horde for the racials.
Over time more and more guilds and players left until we’re left with what we are at now
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okie dokie
Oh yes. Your absolutely right. All the alliance people were people who chose the alliance planning to be casual to begin with.
That makes so much more sense
The casuals all chose alliance
The hardcore all chose horde.
Like magic.
Your faction didn’t even have pretty elves at the start
What’s far more likely is that over time the numbers of players declined, and due to a coin toss of fate, more Horde guilds remained higher level, so people had to switch to continue doing what they wanted to do. You don’t really believe that hundreds of guilds paid thousands of dollars to move entire guilds for a 1% damage increase from racials, do you?
So magically all the hardcore who quit were alliance? Wow. Just wow.
Uldir - 11/100 alliance
tier 21 - 15/100 alliance
tier 20 - 18/100 alliance
tier 19 - 21/100 alliance
tier 18 - 31/100 alliance
its almost like gradually over time guilds that were alliance
here we go
https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/the-maelstrom/ScrubBusters - oh look. was alliance. moved horde.
https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/us/sargeras/Mehwinter/rating.tier18
was alliance. moved horde.
https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/us/stormrage/vodka/rating.tier18
was alliance. moved horde.
https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/ravencrest/eXample/rating.tier18
was alliance. moved horde.
OH GEE
Not saying that at all. Just saying the Horde guilds most likely absorbed dying Alliance guilds. Over time, new people coming to the game that want to move into higher level guilds see that majority are Horde, so if they want to move up the ladder they roll Horde as well. Basing it on racials is just the same baseless excuse people have cried on the forums for years.
or alliance guilds moved horde.
And those are guilds that were competing to be world first, not the vast majority of guilds. I already said guilds going for world firsts will do whatever they can for an advantage. What’s your point?
was alliance. moved horde.
was alliance. moved horde.
and that doesn’t include method.
but there is 7 guilds alone. all previously top 60. who went from alliance to horde.
but keep telling me its just alliance guilds quitting
but they set the precident. the fact is that when they leave, and other guilds look at why they are leaving, an d other players look at why they are leaving. they all want every advantage they can get. humans are by nature competitive and will get every advantage they can get.
The pvp stat is my favourite because according to an infograph that someone posted based on the leaderboards showed that there was almost more OG Orcs than Alliance in PvP. Orcs have like a 23% presence in pvp.
Congrats, you just proved that .01% of the playerbase switched because of racial advantages (even though they didn’t all necessarily state it was for racials). I tip my hat to you.
And yet still not really disproving what I said.
Either way, It’s 5:30 in the morning. I’m going to bed. Y’all wore me out.
What advantage? The advantage of wanting to WPvP more than the Alliance?
The advantage of having the most players and the better players?