The alliance have proven they have the numbers to compete. When the tables were fair, they CHOSE not to. That’s not the horde’s fault.
Unfair advantages as incentives to get one side to participate is wrong and should never have been introduced.
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I haven’t enjoyed world pvp since BC. I used to have world defense active and me and some guild mates would go enjoy the fight, however, it was not usually one sided back then. There doesn’t seem to be any faction loyalty anymore. Everyone is too busy with world quests or whatever or just not interested in helping out. I’m not an avid pvp’er but I do enjoy skirmishes in various towns. I have not participated in War Mode because what’s the point if it’s a gankfest one way or the other, I play both sides.
I do agree that there shouldn’t be any “extra” rewards for activating war mode. That’s just an invitation for this type of behavior. Obviously the outnumbered faction will just turn off war mode. It’s a never ending cycle.
I’ve suggested before that if you want real pvp, make it a free for all like on the timeless isle with the censors and bloody coins.
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i feel like this is a thread trying to point fingers at blizz…
but end up pointing at alliance and those of the alliance come in to watch as a single nelf points back at a horde…
it’s strangely interesting…
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If the current model is removed, the war mode will return to what it was before.
If this is not a problem for the Horde, so that the devs remove the bonus of Alliance!
Return to what it was before, with a majority of the horde participating and a majority of the Alliance, without interest in the war mode!
I never participated in war mode, even with the bonus, so that doesn’t cause trouble, the end of the bonus!
I’m fine with taking all bonsues out.
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But they put a lot of thought and resources into WM! The people who will still have it turned on won’t have anyone to fight and then blizz wasted their time even developing WM.
/s
Right? I think it’s so weird they made such a drastic decision on something nobody cared about for over 14 years all of a sudden.
Why would I? The Horde have the deck stacked in their favor, so the Alliance gets more rewards for participating in a broken system. It wasn’t our choice that they choose to do it instead of fixing warmode, but it’s your choice to be angry at Alliance players instead of devs.
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People cared about being on PvP servers and dealing with PvP (whole different conversation) so they gave everyone a way to opt in or opt out. That makes sense.
10 percent was supposedly to offset time spent in PvP. Ok I can buy that.
Now 30% is starting to look more like a bribe instead of a way to offset, but I guess if one side is truly outnumbered it still makes sense (more time lost since they’re outnumbered).
The 370 though is a flat out bribe, but to me it’s so meager I don’t even see how it’s worth it, but it’s not in line with what they have said so I don’t really know who it’s for.
Horde have people to gank. Alliance have their bribe to get ganked. I guess it’s all worked out.
There was already a way to opt in or opt out…it was called PvP or non-PvP servers. ![:roll_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
It doesn’t work because the alliance have, for 6 weeks been camping every incursion, the capitol city, and even non-alliance areas and still have the buff and free heroic raiding gear.
Either make it fair or take it out.
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Than where have my free camping incursions been at?
i seen mostly horde dominated ones in horde areas, and lack of them appearing alliance areas for fear of a slight disadvantage!
Alliance were there when BfA launched. Horde had a slight advantage in numbers, but we were there.
But then you guys started chain-ganking, camping WQs + dungeon entrances, and generally overfishing the waters. We got sick of it because while getting a few kills in is nice, there are things we wanted to do that weren’t PvP, and there was no way that was going to happen with war mode on. On top of that, on the forums and reddit, Horde incessantly parroted the line, “lul u mad pvp happened turn it off if you can’t handle it.” And so we did, and war mode quickly turned to Horde Mode.
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Why do you keep dodging his question?
And you were screwed if the balance of your long-time server decided to flop against you, with the only way to opt out being a cash shop garbage server transfer or to abandoning your main of countless years to reroll on a different server. That sucked.
In my case specifically, I rolled this character on Bleeding Hollow during patch 1.6. The server always had a Horde bent to it, but some time around Cataclysm it started getting more lopsided and by Legion it had practically become a Horde only server. It was damn near impossible to do anything as Alliance on Broken Shore and Argus because even if you had a moment of peace where everybody was doing their own thing, inevitably some butt would attack you and all of his formerly pacifist faction mates would dogpile in on the easy kill.
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Not to mention those types of people invade other peoples shards when they are not even suppose to be there, just for “The easy pickings”.
i honestly wish they stopped invading rp shards… hate bleeding hollow, and area 52 for a reason myself.
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Like I already said, the potential reasons for getting rid of pvp servers and putting in WM is a different conversation.
And there we have it. Make it fair! Make it fair or remove it! How is one side outnumbering the other side fair? World PvP was never fair. Then we get to the meat of your actual intent…
You’re not interested in removing the perks for the sake of PvP. You want it removed due to jealousy, right? Be honest.
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I’m convinced that regardless of what anybody says, the majority of players who formerly played on PvP servers and now have WM on at all times are only interested in driveby curbstomps and ganks. It’s all about the thrill of ruining somebody’s day. Anybody looking for substantial combat is running RBGs and arenas.
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Just as an aside, as soon as I see quest complete, I use my whistle. I am standing on the ship, and do not take the rocket off when I do it.
Other than that, this post was not what I was expecting from the title. Can’t say I understand what is happening with the lag, but it is annoying. I don’t have a potato, but I don’t by any means have a top end system either. I usually run about 80 FPS with about 40 latency, and I freeze and jump and lag in large fights as well. But I honestly do not know what the solution to that might be.
not to mention people like that thrive in warmode, because of the extra resources and bonuses out there.
so its a no wonder they added somethin like that.
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So what it really boils down to is what I always say. Server transfers shouldn’t cost money.
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