Graphics question?

Are the graphics in the new WOW Classic releasing on Thursday better than the current graphics in Classic Era today?

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why would it be any different?

I saw patch notes which stated “improved graphics.” Not sure if it is or not.

Can you link what you saw so we know what you’re talking about?

I read there would be graphics improvements on a third party gaming site. However, I wasn’t able to find that stated in any official Blizzard posts. Looks like I was wrong.

There was updated textures for Cata Classic, which is what most of us are asking to be put into Classic Fresh.

are they any good?

You want Legion graphics. However be warned you get the Disney-esque animations for characters that exist in retail (Im on board with them, personal thing). However I do not expect anything like this prior to Classic+ (or whatever name they go with). Even then it maybe put in as a personal choice either a “toggle” or an extra download for the upgraded graphics files.

That would be my preferred method but even then these sweatlords would cry that somehow a players ability to toggle and choose between classic or modern graphics would somehow ruin their game.

Since graphics are client side - why can’t we just use updated graphics? I am a fan of the no-changes stuff but I absolutely do not mind the new models, spell animations, and appearances almost invariably. The artwork of the blizzard team has been the one thing keeping the lights on I assume

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Well, its not entirely 1:1.

For instance, the map / terrain / models that allow models in Retail to say, heroic leap, are 100% not possible on the 1.15.5 client. Just telling you that right now.

there is absolutely limitations involved here… its not a simple “switch”

can you explain why the terrain wouldn’t allow heroic leap? I’m sorry that makes no sense to me. How is this not a 1:1 switch give me something pratical to work with. Because as I understand it the appearances of wow items are simply a 1:1 switch as are character models and map textures… renders should absolutely not be tied to physics?

Because, if youve played warrior, youll get these wild interactions when up on a cliff, or a staircase, and you charge. That only happens on Era / 1.15.5. That does not happen in retail.

Its just the way the world is built. Very advanced programming software stuff, but when they built cata, they completely redid the entire world to allow for smoother interactions (and heroic leap) type abilities.

Its too complex, but theyve discussed it a few times how intense the world change was coming into Cata.

Actually, if you went with the WoD graphic update it keeps all the same guts underneath, to the point where it’s just a toggle. That was removed in Legion because of how much the bones of the game was changed. I wonder if they go past MoP Classic if they’ll get around to doing the updates necessary to allow new models in all versions of Classic as a toggle.

yeah i get what youre saying now but that’s not graphics related thats pathing. The only thing that would make it impossible is if rigging changed i would think. But if classic just assigns the render based on some lookup them all we’re really doing is changing the lookup? And if the rigging supports the animations - then we should be able to just use them imo

right now, on “fun” classic servers, there are legion graphics and a smooth client experience. I will allow you to explain how that is working while you say it won’t work.

But, thats the server side graphics. You mentioned “its all client side” … well no its not.

A lot of it is how your character interactions with the world.

I think these - and maybe more - are the problem. They tried a toggle last time around and it crashed the game.

No the graphics are all client side - they render on the client that’s what you download for the several gigs; server side is just assigning the render you have in your local client for display. But I doubt any server side changes are needed to support newer renders

Okay this makes sense then - they should chase it down… might as well… “unofficial” servers have figured this out

I don’t get all this technical talk. Please tell me in step by step detail how to make the graphics look better in the game. Thanks.