i mean i play wow with 8 and thats with over 100 firefox pages open
Can I ask why you have over 100 tabs open? I canât help but wonder.
And stop using Chrome, as people finally start to move away from that resource hog RAM needs may start to drop.
The amount of RAM that Chrome uses (more with Macs then with Windows as even not running it can eat your resources in Big Sur to a massive amount) is insane.
i surf the web a ton open things and tell myself ill come back to it then keep on opening more eventually i have a ton open that i cant bring myself to close cause im sure one day they will be useful
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Chrome (Now Edge).
anything built in Electron as well.
itâs laziness and bad programming. itâs a way of having a small dev team making 1 cross platform, but inefficient app just so they can skimp on the technical work and focus on marketing/sales
Slack is an example of this. At least when I used it (I havenât for 2 years now)
Slack was basically unchanged for 5 years. No real new features for a long while. Yet, slack kept growing, becoming one of the most value messaging services. yet the App itself was pretty poorly written. it was written in Electron and distributed that way. which meant it took multiple GB of RAM to just run.
Meanwhile, a company THAT BIGH can easily afford to hire developers who can write platform specific and effficient Apps. but they never cared to because âMONEY!â. they didnât want to incurr the costs despite how much revenues they were pulling in
Itâs one of the reasons Why I ditched Slack professionally. Runnin off Electron and having a 2gb RAM usage for chatting is completely utterly unacceptible. But again, like many of us in this thread just keep saying âjust buy more ramâ
You wouldnât believe how much my RAM usage improved when I switched from Chrome to the new Edge. The new Edge is actually very, very good IMO.
Which is still a valid (and cheap) answer. Many donât want to switch what they use so they need to get their hardware to match, Simple switches like using Firefox / Safari for browsing the internet can make a huge difference but like many things what browser you use is personal choice and humans are creatures of habit.
Iâm not one to speak on âbuy more RAMâ cause obviously when I built my system getting more RAM was just a âcause I canâ. I have 4 slots and could easily afford 4x16 so why have unfilled slots ?
Cool I was just curious. I get overwhelmed if I open more than about 8 to 10 tabs so I was just curious lol
This^.
I mean WoW being 4GB depends on how many addons you run, but that number is not unreasonable.
16GB would be my minimum in 2021.
I donât envy your position OP. Your hardware is getting dated and shortages now days are making things overly expensive.
You can try reducing resolution, disabling unnecessary addons, lowering particle effects, view distance, et. al. ⌠and basically trying to stretch an extra year out of your hardware until the PC market calms down. It also gives you an opportunity to save some extra cash.
Ironically when I went from 16 to 32 it was for aesthetic reasons in my build. Im a bit OCD and having 2 out of 4 slots was killing me LOL Now all four are filled and it looks much better.
Only after going from 16 to 32 did I realize my system can and often does use more than 16.
It always comes down to cost to performance and what is reasonable
if youâre on a limited budget, putting in 64gb of RAM and then getting a 1660 is outright bad for gaming.
Its like the IT purchaser at my old company. KNew that an i7 was the best. So heâd make sure all the machines were i7âs. but with a budget. So he opted to reduce the RAM from 8 to 4.
This is a bad trade off. getting 4 extra hyper threads but sacrificing 4gb of RAM is a bad trade-off.
this is what system building is about. Knowing performance, requirements and building accordingly. not just saying âI can so I willâ (though I wish we all had unlimited budgets)
as a system admin and IT Manager who is responsible for computers for an entire organization. Having to spend MORE because of bad developers who donât care about their resource allocation is incredibly frustrating. Having a chat program that uses 50% of my users system resources is in my opinion bad programming. Having that from a multi-billion dollar company? Thatâs embarassing.
Whatâs the new it browser?
Honest question, I still use Chrome but if there is something better out there these days Iâd like to check it out.
The one thing to note though going from 16 to 32, if youâre trying to push pixels and FPS (OCD about maximum performance), 32gb ram, especially if itâs 2x16, will tend to be slightly worse performing than 2x8 ( or 4x8 )
Latencies increase the more chips are on the stick (general rule of thumb). So while the MHZ is similar, the CAS latencies will tend to be slightly higher.
Dunno if that matters to most. but just something to note if youâre trading off based on budget
I know you werenât asking me, but ive seen several videos from prominent tech you tubers like Jayz2Cents about Chrome having memory leaks and bad memory usage for years, and switching to the new Microsoft Edge (not the edge that comes fresh on Windows) helps a lot. Its based off of Chromium, just like Chrome is, and runs very well. You can import EVERYTHING from Chrome over to the new Edge also. I highly recommend giving it a try.
Firefox tends to be fastest / performant. Chrome and Edge now use the same engine so arenât going to be much different.
thats about it. Unless youâre on a Mac than you have Safari, which is very performant. But not the best compaitiliby due to itâs own WebKit engine Apple developed
ironically, Microsoft Edge (which is chromium based but they added a lot of performance enhancements for better resource allocation) for Windows or Safari for Mac.
While I donât use EDGE (or Chrome) and have used Firefox from day 1 , EDGE is actually quite good.
Huh, that is interesting. I used Firefox years ago and switched to Chrome because FF was lagging fiercely. That was several years ago though so I guess I should try again. 
Guess I will try Edge too and see which I like better.
Thank you for that information. Iâve tired RAM overclocking in the past very unsuccessfully. Im gonna go home today and do some benchmarking with 2 and 4 and will go with whatever is best. I had no idea.
hmmm anecdotal I guess but Edge performs remarkably better for me than Chrome, despite both being base on Chromium.
Firefox has actually always been sluggish to me so I guess YMMV.
Depends on memory topology, the memory die rev and the memory controller. Most modern motherboards are daisy chain and will almost always perform best in a 2DIMM single rank configuration, followed by 2DIMM dual rank, then quad DIMM single rank⌠and Quad DIMM dual rank should be avoided at all costs.
Previously early 16Gb (gigabit not gigabyte) dies would struggle at lower CAS latencies but thatâs changed with recent die revs. So at this point the best option for 32GB is 2x16GB at single rank generally speaking.
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