Uninstalled WoW and reinstalled. Now it crashes regardless of what Graphics settings I change. LOL What a joke. As long as I don’t run the game, it’s fine. I pay for the game, how silly of me to expect it to work.
The game does work. If you’re having software or hardwrae conflicts on your computer (there is definitely something going on with the video drivers), that’s your responsibility. I’d recommend to use DDU and completely reinstall video card drivers.
If the drivers are working properly you should NOT have to mess around with things in device manager.
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What wattage is your PS? Make sure your chipset drivers are up to date. Do you have your old GPU still? If so would reinstall it remove all of the instances of the 4090. use DDU then reinstall the 4090
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I had to use the GeForce Experience program and it found a 4090 diver update (it appears to have new drivers for most of NVidia cards in it) and the crashing stopped.
Its definitely a WoW change in patch.
Most likely it went like this:
-MS changed something in windows
-Blizzard changes something in WoW to correspond to Windows change
-Games crash until a new driver is released that also corresponds to the Windows change.
No, it’s a straight up Windows and/or Nvidia/AMD change. A lot of things changed in them over the past handful of months. They constantly have to play whack-a-mole with exploits and vulnerabilities.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/security/
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/product-security.html
https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability
Also:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/hardware-flip-queue
60% sure these crashes are the result of some kind of exploit mitigation. The other 40% chance would involve changes to the WDDM flip queues, which probably means all kinds of under the hood changes to the WDDM, even if the features aren’t being used.
Oh and:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/535546/geforce-grd-55123-feedback-thread-released-12424/
If you want to read through and see people complaining about crashes and issues in a very wide variety of games.
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It’s fine, I’m giving up. I’ve done everything suggested here before I posted. DDU, old card, new card, un/re install, no dice. I sold my old card (3080FE). I’ll just leave it at Auto-Detect. It works like that, but my OCD wants it to say NVidia RTX 4090 /shrug lol
As a Hail Mary, I tried DDU again. No luck, it still crashes when I change the GPU from Auto-Detect to anything else, BUT… now when I play WoW, I’m seeing the in-game FPS counter reach, at the highest so far, 560. LOL What? I have it limited to 144 in settings. 560 FPS?
If you installed the drivers with Geforce Experience, it might be automatically changing your settings for you. If not, you can try the following:
- Make sure the box is checked, then move the foreground fps limit slider around and click close
- Go back into the settings and then uncheck the option for it and click close
- Type
/reloadand then/console gxrestartjust to make sure - Go back into the options, enable the foreground fps limit, move the slider to what you want and click close
- Then do
/reloadand/console gxrestartagain
That should make the frame limiter work again. Oh and make sure you’re not confusing the FPS limits for background and foreground.
It’s also possible that you have the foreground limiter turned on and the background limiter turned off, which will allow the fps to run wild if the client loses focus. If that’s the case, you might be having issues with focus being stolen from the game client and it might be putting it into the background limiter mode(which might be turned off in your case). If that turns out to be the case, then it’s a sign you’ve got some other stuff going on with your system and you’d need to start looking into other applications and softwares running, especially anything with overlays. Pretty much all mouse/keyboard/headset softwares have overlays these days.
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I had foreground off. I just set it to 144, my monitor refresh, and now it’s good. I don’t mind 560fps lol But something seemed “off”.
That will do it. Another thing you could also do is either turn on vsync or you can enable nvidia reflex. Reflex will cap the frame rate to a few fps below your refresh rate. So if you’re on a 144hz monitor, it will cap to around 140fps.
If you don’t want to use either of those, I’d recommend setting the max fps limiter to 140. If you get too close to 144hz, you can get screen tearing, which is why reflex caps a few fps below.
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I have “Reflex + Boost” enabled, and I capped Foreground to 141.
@Pawg, thanks for all the help.
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Ahh, then you shouldn’t need to set the foreground limit since it would just be redundant. Test it out to make sure, but I’m 99.9% sure it will handle the capping for you. If you needed to cap to something lower, like 100fps, then use the foreground slider. You might still want to set the background limit to something lower so you’re not melting the ice caps when you’re alt tabbed out.
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Confused. So I should UNcheck “Max Foreground”, and set Target FPS to 100? I have background locked at 30.
If you are using reflex or reflex+boost, you can uncheck max foreground because reflex will lock your frame rate to just below your 144hz refresh rate. If you want to cap your FPS to something much lower than the ~140fps, like 100fps, then you’d check the max foreground and set it to what you want like 100fps.
And yes, I’d leave the background one checked and set to something low like 30fps if you’re concerned about the environment. No point in wasting the power if you’re alt tabbed and not even playing at the moment.
Hope that clears things up a little.
I’m using Reflex + Boost for the ‘Low Latency Mode’ setting, and have Max Foreground unchecked, and seeing crazy high FPS. I don’t mind it, and haven’t had any tearing. It’s just odd seeing, for example, 100-115 FPS in high-pop’ed Valdrakken when I normally get 40-50 there.
So basically, whether Max Foreground FPS is checked (and set at 144) or unchecked, it doesn’t affect the game negatively. I still cannot choose anything other than Auto-Detect in the ‘Graphics Card’ setting though, or it will crash.
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