We have to thank AMD for helping with reducing the price for more cores. If it weren’t for AMD, we’ll be stuck with 4C/8T and have to pay hefty prices for more cores on Intel.
Ryzen 7 1700 is my worst experience.
Randomly bought cheapest G.Skill DDR4-2800 = fail
Bought Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 CL15 and its listed on motherboard QVL = fail
Bought G.Skill Flare X DDR4-3200 CL14 and its “Ryzen compatible” = Works
Not knocking them overall, just can’t fathom why anyone would willingly just fanboy them to the point that can’t accept reality and just sea lion people on the internet.
There is no knight in shining intel, as I’m more then willing to criticize them (go ahead, search my posts) when they do stupid stuff or fall behind.
I’ll sing with the choir about Intel’s stupid policies of locking memory overclocking to Z boards, of intel’s snail-like pace in catching up with the competition, of “lol 14nm”, of overpriced K chips, of F chips not being discounted enough to be worthwhile, of terrible laptops performance this generation, of being too little, too late…etc. etc.
But as much as I am willing to say those things, I also can identify that AMD has got its own problems too, and RAM compatibility was/is one of them.
Intel Core i7-7700K is the last straw. I’ve been waiting for affordable more cores. Getting stuttering issues with 4790K. That’s how I ended up with Ryzen 7 1700. Both using same cooler. Its not even heat related.
My next plan is Intel Rocket Lake.
I thought you were already on the 5800x?
I’m upgrading my 9600K rig. Core i9-9900K here still costs $455. Not worth it.
Yeah, I’m on 5900X.
Well so far my 5600x is running smoothly. Running it on a 570 mobo and 3200 RAM. 5700xt GPU. Granted it’s been one day. I’ve always been really lucky with AMD products both CPU and especially GPU.
I never seemed to have luck with Nvidia, I always seem to get a card from them with a problem. Ages ago had one catch on fire 
The main reason I think ryzen 5000 series are still having RAM stability issues is due to the fact that they did not release these processors on a new chipset. So it’s using the same memory controller as 3000 series.
I honestly believe just due to what we’ve seen from them so far that AMDs complete redesign coming at the end of 2021 aka AM5 socket will fix almost all of these issues. That is most likely when I will swap to AMD. Until then until is just more stable. Also AGESA is still a bottle of nitroglycerin at the moment IMO. It’s extremely powerful but just as unstable
I already expecting limited memory speed due to same memory controller before purchasing Zen 3. I’m at peace with it. Zen 3 is not that bad if you are not using 3800mhz or higher RAM. 3800-4000mhz could be fixed soon.
AGESA is the primary reason for instability issues. It needs to be redesigned and AMD is currently working on that. As you stated the revamp will come out with the AM5 socket CPU at the end of 2021.
With that said what AMD has pulled off in such a short amount of time is truly to be respected. This is basically brand new technology that they had to use innovation to create. Intel has been on the same infrastructure for a large number of years and that is why they are more stable. With any technology the more time you have to perfect something the better it is. AMD will get there in time
Same conversation over and over. Someone says something critical (and relevant and true) of AMD so now we have to soothe the fanboys. It’s like therapy for children
Some of us are not fanboys of either side. We are just a fan of what works best for us. In my case its intel ATM. I could see how an autocad or animator would need AMD.
The funny thing is BOTH intel and AMD are guilty of it; but they use benchmarks that test things 90% of the people will never do. Yet that score makes them say “I need that CPU!” No dude no you dont lol. Like Cinnebench? Great I have no plans to start rendering. That really the main time these scores everyone clings to represent.
Its like bragging you are the fastest kid on the swim team as you try out for football lol
Well for most they are " fans " because that is what they’ve had good luck with in the past. I could honestly care less about benchmarks and things, they are worthless if you are having issues.
I’m a fan of AMD because they just work. This new one is my 5th rig with one, my wife’s is about to be #6. We’ve never had a single processor issue so why would we not keep going with them.
When it comes to GPU’s she likes Nvidia, I’m more of an old ATI guy and it’s simply a matter of what we’ve had success with.
It’s just like people that live and die with Mac’s. I don’t get it, wouldn’t personally have one, but hey if you’ve had luck with them and that’s what you like then have at it.
I’ll probably never buy a Mac either, but it would be silly to say that windows is without problems.
The self awareness is just not there.
I was talking more on the hardware side but yeah the software side is a good example too. Lord knows ME wasn’t exactly a beacon of greatness.
I was talking more attitude and behavior than anything else
RAM doesn’t have enough space to have proper timings across all boards and CPU vendors. This is a manual process and is different per permutation.
My 10700 + Z490 had more RAM compatibility problems than any AMD or Intel platform I’ve owned in the last decade.
Well Moo-ed. These companies are not my friend. They sell me a product and I’ll go with what works best for me.