Got my AOTC/KSM Week 2 as a filthy casual!

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So it’s a common misconception that a casual player doesn’t raid or do endgame content. That couldn’t be further from the truth. A casual.player is a player who only plays maybe a few hours a night here and then. There are many ways to play WoW and to me many of them are far more hardcore than raiding/M+:

-Achievements hunting
-Open world and world quests
-Reputations Grinding
-Pet Collecting
-Pet Battles
-Mount Farming
-Gold Farming
-Max professions
-AH Gaming
-Leveling an army of alts
-Arena
-Rated BGs
-Raids
-Dungeons

The latter 2 are easy to me, but I am awful at leveling and often pay gold for leveling services where I afk and they kill stuff for me. I find my friends who play 30-40 hours a week leveling one of every class and doing every world quest everyday, that’s hardcore AF. My 10-15 hours of raiding and M+ pales in comparison to how hardcore they are.

So I’m here to say that casuals (those who play say less than 15 hours a week) can get AOTC/KSM too! Not just for hardcore people who play nonstop everyday!

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Aotc & KSM are the casual achievements though , the players who play all day everyday are more likely to have CE & top 0.1% m+.

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It never had anything to do with being Casual. Most players that don’t do end game are Solo players.

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Yeah, if that’s all you want to do, you sure can. Assuming you have a good core group of people to run with, otherwise a lot of your limited time is spent just getting into the content and hoping it completes.

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Most players don’t realize that though, being in a guild is necessary now a days.

But gratz on the aotc! Last one I got was from N’zoth for the void dwagon. Cheers! :dracthyr_blob_dance_animated:

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If an arbitrarily defined label is commonly misconceived, the definition should be changed.

I wouldn’t call you a casual player and I don’t think most people would. You don’t have to be casual or hardcore, there’s room in-between. Sometimes players are just players.

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I have KSM already and I pugged all of mine. And I play solo otherwise and don’t raid. Can’t generalize people like this, it makes no sense. Eventually I’ll do 20s again like last season.

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why would true casuals care about getting those though? you seem like you are an OCD casual to want those.

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Oh it’s the former top world player that gets carried.

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Different people have different definitions for the term casual. For example i would say a casual would never do this. Others disagree.

The community in general has been retiring this term as no one can agree on what it means.

15 hours a week is still a lot lol.

But either way, congrats on the achievement

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Gratz! And I agree that you can be casual and still do most things. I’m just not a fan of rushing things. I’ll get all that done eventually.

Just taking my time and enjoying the journey with friends.

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Even someone who plays 1 hour per week can get the top achievements (Glad / M raid kill).
It’s called “getting carried”.

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I always find it crazy when people somehow equate casual to being bad. Casual vs hardcore is more tied to time played and not connected to skill. I know people who play 40+ hours a week but aren’t very good, and I know mythic raiders that only play a few hours a week and yet dominate the meters. People need to get over this mindset that a casual player can’t be highly skilled.

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Most people I know who are mislabeled as casuals play 2-3x this. The ones that do solo/world content, professions, alts, etc.

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I consider myself a casual player. Mostly because I dress in jeans and a T-shirt when I’m playing. As such, I’m able to complete all the content I care about.

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Grats on both, now get ready for people to tell you that you aren’t really casual… Oop too late.

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I am a casual (I have a full time job, other responsibilities, and play about 3-4 times a week) and I got my KSM too.
On my way to AOTC with my guild.

The whole definition of “casual” usually varies with the narrative someone is trying to push.

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How can you be “awful at leveling” and pay someone to do it for you while still calling yourself a casual?

But, he pays people to level his alts. How is that being a casual?

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You paid for your runs. Took less than two minutes to see that.

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Guilds make things easier but are not a requirement. I know someone who went 6/8M last tier without a guild. KSM/KSH through pugging.

For casual stuff like M+ up to 20s and Heroic raiding, is totally doable with just pugs but the experience for raiding will be much, much smoother in a decent, consistent group.

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