If the need new loot apply to raiding only time today goodbye to raiding and and say hello to m+. Not only is m+ shorter and requires less time now I don’t have to have to someone roll need on a item that’s is not an upgrade to them. But simply they roll need just coz they can…
What about class with multiple spec like a druid so now they can roll on agility and int trinkets and weapons even though say they were a moonkin in raid but since they have 2 spec that use agility gear?
Considering I plan on becoming a Preservation Evoker main forever I get the joy of competing with everyone whos trying out the new class and Hunters which are among the most popular DPS classes due to their simplicity for at least the first season so “yay”
M+ has been vastly superior to raiding, for loot, for years, if you were doing raids for loot in the first place… I dunno what to tell you.
Don’t worry, I’m sure Blizzard has plans to address this issue by ruining M+ too.
Unless you were a mythic raider, you were probably better off if you could do 15s in mythic+ anyways. That allows you to unlock full upgrades, get end of instance loot on par with the heroic raid and a weekly vault with mythic tier options. Not to mention being able to target farm items you needed.
I don’t think there will be many occasions where there are more mail wearers than leather. Leather classes are just so popular.
Yeah maining leather is gonna really suck
M+is more fun as a warlock anyway. I’m ready! Got no raiding guild anyways.
Wait they’re bringing back need vs greed roll system now?
You’re going to make a certain Druid very upset by saying that.
If you’re considerate, you will only roll need for the spec you’re in. MS>OS was always the rule.
The solution is not to pug.
People do this already.
I change my loot spec boss to boss depending on what drops. I was healing SoD and looted an Aegyishyde shard.
Should I have not done that? I took a tanking item while healing?
That said I do think PL vs Group Loot should be an option not forced.
imagine if they make M+ loot roll too an d the chests at the end rolls
These two situations are only comparable if the PL system works like Roll for item > Roll for receiver – i.e., if it chooses a tank spec item, then chooses from players with tank spec loot chosen. If it works the other way – Roll for receiver > Roll for item in which you were gonna get a piece of loot either way, and then it decided what loot based on your chosen loot spec – then you didn’t “steal” a tank item from anyone under the PL system. You just chose what loot you wanted, after already winning the opportunity to receive loot.
In this new system, the loot that drops is the loot that drops, for everyone in the raid. Then everyone in the raid who can use that loot gets to pick ‘need’ or ‘greed’, at which point, yeah you could ‘need’ for off-spec items and in that case it’s much more of a “you took it from someone” situation if another person was rolling ‘need’ for their main spec.
Good bye M+ and hello mute button.
I hope they change the name of the game to World of M+
I fully expect that they’ll change end of dungeon drops to work the same way where you get any 2 random items off the boss loot table regardless of your party comp. Why not? It’ll slow gearing down immensely and bring back that “good old day” vibe they clearly are aiming for.
So the end result is the same, but people get upset because they feel entitled to an item because it’s the spec they are actively in the raid as?
I guess I can see that.
I do think there should be an option for PL vs GL.
The one thing I hate about PL though is that it encourages class/armor stacking, which I feel is the complete opposite of how a gearing system should work. It should encourage a variety of classes not stack the same ones for better loot.
That and it’s caused necks/rings to drop at an extremely high rate because they are on everyone’s loot table.
I’m not going to be upset. It just isn’t true. People lie all the time, why would I be uniquely upset in this one instance?
Well this should bode well for raiding…
(Did the sarcasm come through thick enough?)