Goblin RP Ideas

So my alt-itis is teaming up with my mild obsessive disorder and I need to do something with this so it doesn’t bother me all week. I’ve always wanted to RP one, but always got stuck on ideas, and they just wander off into the wilds of my imagination.

Note that I don’t think this is original, I’m almost positive someone’s played them this way before.

A goblin that is rather sick of the whole greedy-banker stereotype and wants to reform the image somehow. Be more like the gnomes and invent instead of hoard; be like the tauren, revere the earth instead of polluting it. Or something. They would make it a point to talk without sounding like they grew up around the Italian mafia. Probably get offended when someone expects a con or payment out of an offer for help.

I could see this character probably working as shaman or priest… maybe a hunter?

Thoughts?

I like this idea and contrarian types- could lean into the idea that they used to be very involved in the things they learned to dislike; which gives motivation to the things they want to change.

I like the hunter idea, natural-exploiter turned tree-hugger?

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If I ever see you I’d be happy to play straight man with my walking list of bad goblin stereotypes.

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I’d say your character concept, or rather the anti-concept, you’re going for is how most people actually play goblins. Mercenary scout/sniper/sappers, blue collar gear heads, flighty socialites, and bookish spellcaster-types outnumber most other character by quite a bit.

In my experience, it’s mostly newer goblin roleplayers who come up with a character who’s excessively greedy/selfish. Or a coldblooded criminal. Or a straight-up Captain Planet Villains. They usually disappear after a week or two because the characters are generally unpleasant to be around and can’t get any interactions outside of arguments with strangers.

Even among NPC goblins, very few actually fit the stereotypes you’re looking to avoid. One trip to any of the cities will reveal that there’s no “greedy bankers”. Just bankers… in banks. There’s no mafiosos putting out hits on people or committing crimes. Just people with Jersey-inspired accents. And the settlements aren’t dirty. Pollution is pretty much restricted to immediately around active mining/drilling operations, where you’d expect it to be. You don’t see Goblin characters gleefully dumping waste like Captain Planet villains. That’s less a Goblin thing and more the work of Venture Co and people Gallywix- who are clearly bad guys, even by goblin standards.

Outside of them, Steamwheedle settlements like Ratchet, Gadgetzan, Fuselight by the Sea, Booty Bay, Everlook, etc are all pretty nice places. A lot of people even forget that pirates and their antics are against the law in Gadgetzan- which is why the decision by Blizzard to portray it as a seedy place full of warring international crime gangs in Hearthstone came as something of a surprise. To me at least.

So yes, I think your concept can work. But I don't think it'll work if you define the character by what they're not.

As far as looking for inspiration goes, I’ve found most successful and thematically appropriate goblin character concepts can be found by mining 1920’s-1940’s American pulp stories. People in the middle of rapid capitalist/technological advancement, who are all trying to get a piece of that pie that is the American goblin dream.

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Admittedly it’s been a while since I’ve played any goblin character in depth or was around their cities. But I do remember seeing goblin setups in that weren’t the nicest, polluted waters, leaking barrels and stuff. Not sure they continued the theme through BFA though… didn’t actually look.

Anyway, I ended up dreaming about her lol. Which is odd, can’t remember having dreams about characters before. She’s still going to be like that, but going to be a umm… McGyver type(?) murderhobo lol. Got demons? She’ll get rid of them, got ghosts? She’ll exorcise them. Need ghosts? Might be able to get them! Machinery suddenly acting rampaging about? No need to call an engineer, she’ll “fix” it!

I very much agree with Tammy! A lot of those stereotypical goblin characters don’t tend to last long. And the ones who do tend to have more to them than just the personality of greed. It can be boring to be in the shoes of a character where their whole personality only comes from what might be expected from them.
Are there plenty of goblins that fit the description of pollution and greed? Yeah, but, when you look at characters like Gazlowe, while he might be trying to get by and make money he also has his own moral compass, opinions, beliefs and things he supports and does not support.

The goblin themselves have a history that would be good to do research in. And I mean where the REAL stereotypes come from. If anything, wanting to play a character that goes a bit outside what might be expected is far more interesting than playing into something unsavory. Not that it can’t be done, but it has to be done with acknowledgement that you’re actively playing a character interested in making money.

While I’m not really much of a goblin RPer, I say a healthy balance of what you want mixed in with what goblins are in lore can make for a good well rounded, healthy, goblin character.

By that I mean, you make a goblin character exactly how you want them to be. Maybe someone interested in dismantling earth destroying operations. You can do this in an ‘inherently goblin’ way. You can still have a fun personality, sound like Robert De Niro and also pour lemonade all over the electronics making the oil rigs work. Maybe he acts just like what poeple expect him to act and then at the last moment totally ruin their whole deal because - News Flash! - You fell for what you expected of him and made you think he wasn’t a big deal, fell under the radar and now you lost your entire operation!

Me personally, I always find characters to be more interesting if there is at least some acknowledgement to their culture, even if they’re going against it. And if they don’t know, the player has at least done some research. So even if the character not knowing, their actions, dress, story are influenced by things they don’t know about yet. Which is just how people are, we have pasts and cultures that have effected us to this day even if we may not know what it was. By knowing at least some goblin lore, it’ll help your character be more dynamic by seeing what they may or may not know.

A goblin who maybe helped his people set up a settlement on the island, helped the community on Kezan in some form or was brought up in some distinct goblin environment, but later did something else, I think is a good way to go because it shows a change in your character. It lets you play with the ‘why’ of why they decided to branch off or do their own thing.

But if you’re looking to choose between Shaman, Priest and Hunter. You have three different major paths here if you’re looking to make a character based on the class.

Based on what you wrote, and what I Am thinking someone who leans into ‘hunter’ might be a good fit. A goblin who is very much someone raised in their culture but has no mercy in destroying the tech used to experiment on wildlife sounds like a fun idea. Only idea there is figuring out what make this character so passionate in defending the forests, where people would have otherwise thought they would be in line with destruction.

I would be very interested to see a goblin who did not go the route of timid, shy and stuttering for going against the grain (not that you cannot make these characters) but was instead Robert De Niro, defender of the forests. Someone who is a goblin, can get along with goblins, but takes no crap with your rusty serrated bear traps laced with poison.

(Also, I would say a goblin who was treated as if people expected to be conned or swindled would be in the right to be offended they would think that of them. It’s a stereotype and rather prejudice to assume that. Not to mention…it plays into the unsavory connection people make. So def a realistic response !)

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I’m aware of where they drew their inspiration from, same place JK Rowling did.

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I agree with Tammy and would probably just recommend treating your Goblin like any other character. They’re a real person. It’s fine if they want money, since their society puts a high value on dreadful work ethic and production over safety. “Time is money” isn’t an unreasonable, un-human like philosophy, but obsession over gold for the sake of it is where things get weird.

It’s also perfectly fine to run counter to the established culture, especially now where Goblins have mixed with the rest of the Horde and can find common ground with more like-minded individuals.

Always ask yourself why when you’re deciding on likes and dislikes, what compels your character, and you’ll unearth an easier way to define who the person is. It works better than any sliding scale on personality traits or numeric scores for attributes. People aren’t numbers on a score card, they’re a collection of experiences and things they know.

going against the stereotype has become a stereotype

Well when the stereotype is based on certain irl racial stereotypes that’s not a bad thing in the goblin’s case.

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oh are they?

awkward…

Pretty much all the races are based on or draw inspiration from something in real life. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up to the individual. I personally don’t find any of them too offensive, but if you were a person from Jersey, you might frown at the inference that some of your friends are dumb enough to strap bombs to their back and blow themselves up for pay, for example.

Granted, WoW isn’t satire. The writers aren’t making fun of anyone when they have British folks represented by werewolves or Jamaicans represented by Trolls. Vulpera being caravaners who farm alpacas and, oh coincidentally, have the only zone you can literally just steal things off the ground from, does maybe play the game a little close to the edge.

Anyway, say hello to my little friend!

https://i.imgur.com/LEavZD9.png

Vikesha Sparkfizzle, defender of the wilds, expeller of ghosts, hunter of demonic forces, and quite handy around machinery too!

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Ha ha ha, I’m in danger!

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Gen here, jumping on on my Goblin alt.

By all means, jump on board that innovative, ruthless edge and make-shift can-d attitude that the race is famous for … after all, you likely grew up in Kezan, or in one of the Steamwheedle cities, and that’s a rough place to grow up.

The Steadwheedle might be the more healthy areas to grow up, since those Trade Princes tend to be well liked, even beloved, by their workers since they take care of their workers, pay them a good wage and make sure there’s all the amenities and proper protections in place to keep business booming and the cartel protected from both inside and outside forces. But they still kept an iron fist on the wheel and were more than willing to exile, or even kill, any uppity member of their Cartel who threatened the status quo and was a threat to their profits.

And yet, even the most beloved Trade Prince or Baron can be toppled, either bought out, ousted via a coup or simply becoming too old to run such a sprawling, chaotic enterprise.

Growing up on Kezan means you grew up under the chubby, greasy thumb of Gallywix of the Many Chins, and Kezan might have been the homeland of the Goblins, but it was not a happy place. The vast majority of the population lived in the slums, dwelled in shanties cobbled out of scrap and sheet metal, and the few individuals who did have decent homes all paid exorbitant rent to Bobby Kottick Gallywix and were constantly on the edge of crushing debt just to make ends meet.

You do not grow up in either of those environments without taking the lessons that kept you alive out into the wider world.

Goblins aren’t stupid, however. There’s not much room left to grow without getting into trouble with the natives or the Mega-Factions, there’s been a massive expenditure of resources and nobody’s quite sure where the next mine, lumber mill or farm can be built and actually provide useful materials. Everybody’s economy is in shambles and thanks to Gallywix and Sylvanas, Goblins are held in the lowest regard since they started selling weapons and equipment to the Dark Horde/Old Horde.ee

So, take the above and blend it together. You’re driven, you’re ambitious and you’re conditioned to make your mark and rise to the top, by hook or by crook. But you’ve also got to live in this world, and having everyone as your enemy is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea. Gazlowe is a good example of a Goblin who balances his ambition and the inherent drive for power and gold that thrives within each Goblin, and the needs of not just his crew, but the politics of the world around him. He pushes for advancement, works hard to secure resources and trade agreements, doesn’t send his people off on suicide missions, pays them well above what they’d normally get and rewards ambition and talent even when it doesn’t immediately net him a profit, even when it ends up costing him significantly.

Vikesha could be interested in exploring potential new food sources and animal breeds that could be useful to the Horde as beasts of burden or even potential war-machines, as well as the thrill of testing her personally-modified equipment against dangerous and hostile creatures and beings, and everybody has reason to hate the Scourge and the Legion after everything we’ve been through … and there’s a lot of alchemists, mages and other, shady types who’d pay through the nose for the reagents that come from such dangerous and hostile creatures.

Just a random brain dump on the subject.

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Thanks for making me read that in Wiggim’s kid’s voice. lol

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Oh yeah, I have no doubt you do. Honestly whenever I bring up stuff it’s never because I think the other person may not know, just sort of reinforcing that it’s good what you do and to inform anyone else reading who maybe did not know.

It’s not something everyone would know. The goblins I would say are a smidge better than some other goblins out there. But there is a reoccurring theme with goblins in fantasy that characterize them as, and putting this under summary just out of respect for the description:

Summary

Large hooked nosed creatures who are greedy , only care about money, hoard, con people , are unpleasant, have green skin and pointy claws. The jokes that I’ve seen at the expense of goblins over the years have been the same jokes aimed at the real life people these features have been mocked for.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with enjoying the goblins. It’s just the mindset of people who think goblins have to be greedy in order to be accurate. I love goblins, esp ones who are well thought out and are more than just aggressive and ‘shifty’.

But don’t feel bad or awkward for not knowing. Being open to learning and understanding where things come from make story telling a better experience and makes one’s writing more dynamic when you start getting creative!

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In other news: Can gobs tame the rabbit and the chicken mechanicals? One’s in Loch Modan, the other is in New Tinkertown… I imagine there’s a lot of good ol’ fashioned death runs invovlved.

I just tried to tame the squirrel in azshara, but it spawns at level 40 or something stupidly high.

Yup! Just ran by a goblin at this very second of writing this who had the rabbit and squirrel!

Got the bunny and chicken. I’ll get the squirrel and sheep later. :smiley:

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