His was such an obvious troll attempt that everyone just ignored it. There was zero value in his post, so why are you even giving him time on it?
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Yrel subjugated an entite planet cue religious fanatism. What did Gallywix do thatâs even close?
You⌠You do know the difference here, right?
You have been around here way too long to not know Erevein. You have been around here way too long to be posting like youâre low-key jealous of EreveinâŚ
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I love pirates.
I like these little advertisement shorts theyâre doing, I have to say.
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Yarr harr fiddle dee dee, the Blackwater Cartel is a fine fit for me.
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The fact itâs practically revealed that the Cartels during the 1st War were just Steamwheedle, Bilgewater, Blackfuse and Venture Co is telling of Goblinsâ sides on Faction Conflict as there were only 2 Trade Princes ruling the Goblins which means the Goblin contacting Terenas in Beyond the Dark Portal who mentioned that it was only one Trade Prince who struck a bargain with the Horde was sent by Gallywix as he was the only Trade Prince besides the Steamwheedle Trade Prince!
Seems SI7âs attack just turned the Allianceâs only ally amongst the Trade Princes to the Horde!
Where was it stated that only Goblin cartels during the First War, were the just Steamwheedle, Bilgewater, Blackfuse and Venture Co? Let alone, there being only two Trade Prince during this time?
All Krix Wiklish mentioned was that one Trade Prince had allied with the Horde, but switched gears following their defeat in the Second War. There was nothing implying that there were only two Trade Princes.
Now as to the idea of Gallywix being a potentially ally to the AllianceâŚ
During the Second War, the Bilgewater cartel was led by Trade Prince Maldy, who was concerned that if things went south for the Horde, the Alliance of Lordaeron would turn on the goblins next. Dialogue from Captain Krazz in the Siren Isles revealed that he had ferried Horde forces during the war, suggesting that the Bilgewater did aid the Horde during the conflict.
Itâs currently unknown if Krazz switched cartels at some point, Krix lied about only one Trade Prince joining the Horde, or if while Trade Prince Steamwheddle joined the Horde, Trade Prince Maldy merely agreed to a business arrangement.
All we know is that in the face of his concerns, Maldy clamped down hard on trading, making sure that Bilgewater had enough supplies and money to weather a financial siege and bend the other cartels over a spiky barrel.
Prior to Gallywixâs takeover over the Bilgewater, Maldy did arrange a weapon deal with the Alliance. However Gallywix arranged for the fleet transporting the weapons to be destroyed, depraving Maldy of his gold, and powerless to stop Gallywixâs takeover.
I kind of wonder if Krix was sent by Maldy, whose meeting with Terenas eventually evolved into the above mentioned weapon deal that Gallywix ruined.
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Pretty sure the original cartel aligned with the Horde was the Steamwheedle.
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Fair point.
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Yeah, dude will turn any thread into âhorde good, alliance bad,â thread. Even when asking questions about something else, from his own initial post, it will just devolve down to alliance bad, horde good.
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So, the big question: Why would my character join a cartel?
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That is question only you can answer.
Itâs kinda why Iâm debating just doing pvp for season 2 and maybe just the story. Really nothing about the Undermine(d) patch interests me
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Then that is your choice. And that is what makes the game so great, the choices.
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I actually left PVP this season because healing was just such a nightmare. I went to do just quests but I ran into a problemâŚI did all the quests XD
Might go back to PVP and just not heal.
That is my issue, I cant 
Another issue I had when I switched out of only doing PVP in this game, I started reading quest text and quickly realized âWow, my character would only ICly do maybe 10% of these thingsâ lol.
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Access to Undermine.
I just know that Iâm starting with Bilgewater and once Iâm maxed rep with them, then Iâll start on a different cartel.
There is always a danger of this kind of thing. No matter the story, there are people who just wont see their character being part of it. You either have to find a justification or just kind of OOC it.
If you are not at all excited by or interested in Goblins, their cartels, etc. the best generic reason is: Using them.
The main, overall goal of the patch is stopping Gallywix from helping Xalâatath. If your character would care about stopping Xalâatath you could see it as strengthening them so they can get you in a place to stop him from getting Xalâatath what she wants.
Outside of that, I donât know what I could tell you to help you figure it out.
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This is a really good way of looking at it, thank you!