Getting sick of the losers that play this game. Apparently 440 is too low for random BG’s, when the reward is basically that?
What incentive is there for 475 ilvl people to queue for random bgs other than to annoy everyone else. That alone saps the fun out of it, but to have them then complain that your ilvl is too low…
They’re probably bad players. 440 is plenty high enough for a random bg.
a 440 cant do much to a 470. the difference is massive tbh
figures a warlock says its fine, try facing geared healers on a melee
You ever heard of Twinking? Max level is the same as twinking, to become as powerful as possible to own up PvP. Why would’t you want to Min/Max the very best gear?
This is why Twinking is the most fun aspect of PvP, in the end everyone is basically trying to be a Twink whether they admit it or not.
Complaining about gear on a random BG says a lot more about the complainer than it does the complainee.
I do multiple arena skirmishes a week for fun and very often I end up grouped with a dps that has under 200k health (very often). I always joke with them before the gates open…“maybe they won’t notice”.
The difference is massive really because of Corruption and Essences. Likely the geared player has at least 1 BiS corruption and Rank 3 Essences and that is all of your PvP burst or damage.
My corruption gloves do 10-15% of my entire damage the BG. I win every 1 v 1 when it procs.
On the topic no one should make fun of you for your gear or spec in a BG because that is just a Toxic player. Forget them! I love big gear differences because it give me something to work towards in an RPG. If there wasn’t shiny gear that made you OP then why play.
Gearing up is exciting and a reason to log in just need less RNG to attain it and better gear from PvP sources.
Just got out of silvershard mines alliance team everyone was 500k or more horde team was spread out between 150k-300k and we got smashed people wonder why people do that its because coming in with 200k or less you will barely do anything
While I get this low gear can be disheartening when you have a bunch on your team, 440 is fine lol. Was owning bad 460s at 440 on a few my toons.
There is also the “underdog” element where it’s great to actually beat someone you are not supposed to because you outplayed them 
440 is fine for random bgs, I have a throwaway Hunter alt in that range and I can still put out decent deeps. I would say 420 and under is “low” for random bgs, the power difference between a 460-470 player and a 420 player is pretty huge.
Fortunately, it’s very easy to get 420-430 item level just with “casual” content like world quests, LFR, Mythic 0’s, conquest gear, etc.
Scaling is still in full effect. There was a vid last week on the arena forums of someone hitting 88k on a warlock with 78k hp and it only took 35% of his health off.
I’ve came to the conclusion that blizz weights your stat allocations and scales everything accordingly. You need proper stat distributions regardless of your item level and you won’t notice much of a difference between a 470 and a 450.
What most players wrongfully do is pick an item with a higher item level just because of the primary stat increase + “ooh shiny new higher item level”. This is the wrong mentality. If an item has your worst stats and is a 50 item level upgrade you should not take it if all you do is pvp. Hitting an arms warrior in D stance with 25% vers at 450 item level feels like hitting a concrete wall. Hitting an arms warrior at 470 item level in D stance with only 5% vers feels like you are shoving him into a wood chipper.
Getting high item level is important yes but you need to do so while maintaining correct stat distributions.
*On the contrary, the gimmicky pve items like the raid trinket or bicycle trinket from mechagon you absolutely want the highest item level on because their damage is directly related to item level.
I would agree, I fall into the camp that feels gear and skill make this game. A 30-35 ilvl spread is too big. Throw corruptions on it, and you’re dog food.
Why BGs drop garbage gear when everything else offers better? Rail at your dev team over that one. They’ve set it up so that literally everything offers better gear than any BG including epics.
Because they can. You understand the importance of gearing. Your first statement acknowledges it. They understood it too - and got the gear. You’re at the end of an expansion. People have been gearing up for a while now.
Jerks in every crowd. 440’s isn’t awful. Not like you’re coming in freshly dinged 120 with quest gear on.
They’ve changed it up too often. It’s BC, resil is king. It’s Legion, ilvl is king. It’s MoP, sockets are king. It’s BfA, corruptions and versatility are king. Seems to confuse people.
Well the only explanation we got was a stick man drawing using ms paint on how “scaling magic” works.
Yea, exactly. Glad someone other than a Warlock said it 
Scaling magic. I love it.
Their words… not ours lol
https://twitter.com/ckaleiki/status/1041878657701052416/photo/1
OH.MY.GAWD
It really IS stick figure “scaling magic”.
Told ya. MS paint. lol…
Blizz thinks we’re 5 apparently.
I know it’s juvenile but honestly, it’s the best way they could put it. What seems like a massive disadvantage, isn’t really the case.
They could tell us how it actually works like they did in Legion.
True, they could.