Gnomer, PVP, and warriors(melee in general)

Gnomer is a mess… Bosses with more armor than lvl 60 raid bosses by a LONG ways means no melee damage. It also means serious threat issues for every tank other than a lock. On top of it the incoming damage is so high, especially on the last 2, that you are forced into full mitigation gear further pushing threat down. Our locks simply can’t dps. Warriors in particular have a VERY hard time tanking since we do not get free crit cap with a rune and there is no rage or globals for shield block or you won’t be tanking the boss. No dual spec means you are carrying 2 tank specced people and struggle with DPS races.

In PVP with no shield, self heal, vanish, etc warriors are really struggling. I just finished a STV. The pallies in the group were consistently turning in 50-100 stacks for my 10-20 because of every ability on every class 1 shotting or otherwise having no counterplay. Can’t even swap a shield in single every class has a way to permanently stunlock us. Spriests and rogues being the worst and most OP PVP classes.

Warriors, in particular, are in a horrible spot right now and not even close to fun to play.

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It’s almost like their armor reduction in game… if you run the right group

I mean hunters don’t have a heal, mages healing is nerfed… rogues don’t have healing (vanish is not as good as you think)
You also have been given a heal seen zero people have it

Sound like a skill issue especially if your class has also have a kill stealing ability like execute

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Gnomers fine as is. I suppose they could reduce armor values by a bit so the brownies feel a bit better but it is not needed. We cleared it on the first lock out with a warrior tank. Stay the course and good luck to you!

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ThEy NeEd To BaLaNcE tHe GaMe So I fEeL gOoD nO mAtTeR wHaT i PlAy!

Pre nerf BFD: LFM BFD, no casters!

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As far as PvP goes warriors are still beasts with a healer as always. Who cares about PvE meters. Bosses get downed, loot gets dropped whether you are top or 6th in dps.

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Pre-Nerf… as in, it was nerfed so casters could compete? :thinking:

Guess nerfs are fine as long as it doesn’t benefit warriors. The warrior hate from this community is unreal :laughing:

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We pugged last night, warrior tank had 0 plate on, had some leather dps pieces. And a rogue tank. Healers were me a paladin and a priest. Gnomer is about mechanics. Follow them, and its a decently challenged raid, last fight to me is A+ tier imo.

Also dps was 2 SP 1 mage 1 warrior 1, 1 boomkin 1 feral…

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you proved your point. they nerfed it

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2 sp is like 2 extra healers, its kinda cheesing the content

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Full armor reduction on the bosses and they still have more armor than a pre-reduction patchwerk.

hunters have a pet, feign death, ranged abilities, and the strongest melee in the game. Mages are ranged, they can heal very well, they have multiple slows. They also have 1 shot specs and massive AOE with a reliable escape. Warriors have Enraged regeneration which requires a 30 or 60s cooldown, 2 globals, and 10s to give 30%. This is literally impossible in PVP.

You have to have rage to execute or even do ANYTHING but white swing with either an excessively slow swing timer or an OH that does half damage. Every other class has either a 1 shot ability or an invulnerability.

There is no healing the pvp damage lol

You effectively had 5 healers not to mention 3 full specced healers… LOL LOL LOL

They never healed at all… mage is a healer, druid is a healer , paladin can heal. So bringing those as well is cheese?

Incorrect. Me the paladin and priest only heals the whole raid. Boomkin was full balance. Sp where full shadow . Mage was fire. Try again

Even if they didn’t heal a single point of health(highly doubt it) you still took 3 healers lol… Lets see the log

This is more of a you issue. Stick close to one another and all of you get the blood, when you are stealth from being bloodless still stick on them when they are about to land a kill and you still get blood. Paladins Have more initial burst but do about the same DPS as warriors in PvP, Wars also are better at finishing the enemy. Bubble is a 5 min CD so they are not using it that often to get extra blood.

Charge to get in and steal kills along with the AoE fear. Wars do well in the event when brawling near spawn. It helps to get a feral Druid in your group for WS so you become more deadly, Pally for might for even more damage but everyone dies so fast you might not get buffed.

lol warrior is literally one shot by everyone

Warriors and Rogues: sobbing uncontrollably

Casters: Revenge…REVENGE! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Armor is a step in the right direction so that damage doesn’t get too skewed one way or another in PvP. They can adjust future values a little better.

Paladin is hybrid so I can’t complain. I did 6/6 with a PuG and held aggro with no issues.

No you didn’t

it was bad design in BFD and its bad design in gnomer. The armor values and incoming damage are absurd

Yeah this phase is like blatantly anti-melee lol

I guess we all might as well unsub till p3

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