Even first boss is pretty close to pre-nerf Kelris in terms of difficulty.
But health/mechanics wise this is actually pretty close to later retail expansion number of mechanics. Some require lots of movements and coordinating with group and instantaneous adjustments needing to be made outside of plan (lightning boss).
Also raid is wayyyyy longer, time wise, due to size and amount of trash
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thank god…BFD was boring and way too easy
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it certainly was, the difficult jump to gnomer was pleasantly surprising.
im almost 100% sure they will nerf everything to the dirt once a few people complain though,
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yeah i would not be surprised. i could see them nerfing it next week. they had it a bit harder to make it interesting for the sweaty guilds for now.
Good raiding should be hard.
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I think dad guilds will be able to coordinate and get thru most bosses. And eventually clear after a while.
But random pugs, no shot they clear the place for a while or before nerfs.
Last boss wiped us a few times because we simply had too much melee but once we figured out the bombs with the few range we had, we made it work.
I don’t think the majority of classic gamers can handle actual difficult raiding. Time will tell but I have a sneaking suspicion everything will get nerfed to the ground.
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Naw.
Blizz is gonna nerf it for me.
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first 2 bosses got deleted in 40 seconds for our groups
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ehh thats a pretty big exaggeration when the fastest logged kills are 1:09 seconds, but regardless of kill times it has quite a bit of mechanics and raid wide damage for a first boss + having that threat drop.
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This is why they made normal and heroic raiding. Not everyone enjoys the same level of difficulty.
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Eh. By the time dad guilds and PuGs catch up, the l33t guilds will have gone through all the trial and error suffering to document the most optimal method and we’ll just be following a WoWhead guide.
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Not quite in there yet, but I hope it’s more challenging than “Tank and spank” without becoming retail heroic mode…
I play classic because it’s relaxed, I want my raids to be challenging, but I’m not looking for the twitch Dance Dance Revolution game that is Retail.
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a proper raid. awesome!!
scr00bz0r guilds should not be a thing 20 years into a game. get good already!
I would say it has mechanics on par with like wrath raids like Ulduar. It is easily 3x harder than BFD and quite long.
Even the sweatiest world first guild took them over 2 hours for the first clear.
Pugs will not be clearing this for a long time unless it is nerfed. It is simply too long.
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currently on 5th boss… I will say I dont see pugs getting very far at all.
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if a group can get the 1st boss they should be able to get at least 4. The first boss is harder than the 2nd and 3rd one even. 1st boss really just a DPS check and if that isn’t gonna be met then nobody’s time will be wasted and the group can disband right then there.
Well, considering that 90% of dps’ers are mouth breathers, this should be entertaining.
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This st should literally only be for dad guilds and pugs. I do t understand why you try hard losers need to try and ruin every game by turning st into a grindfest.
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