counterquestion, does anyone really cares about nathanos?
if sylvanas is not getting kerriganâd, (that is the garbage that pretty much everyone expects) then it would be a pleasant surprise to find out that she isnât getting randomly reedemed.
and nathanos hasnât really have done much other than killing sira or raising some corpses,oh and helping with teldrassil, but he isnât the maximum responsible for it.
He showed horror at Teldrassil which is similar to Kerriganâs reaction to Menskâs abuse of the Psi Emitters on two Planets. Kerrigan personally helped deploy the Psi Emitter on the first planet while Duke did the second oneâŠ
The notion of Duke makes me wonder where KelâThuzad is at the moment⊠Not to mention what Ashvaneâs role is(both KelâThuzad and Ashvane are Humans and thus capable of being WoWâs General Duke).
Someone will read this without having read the source material and think itâs true. Thatâs what makes me saddest.
I recall he has a moment of hesitation, where Sylvanas turns around and says: âAre you deaf? Did I stutter?â , and Saurfang says Nathanosâs eyes were wider than he had ever seen them.
Whether that is showing horror, or something else, (initial stages of hesitation and doubt?) idk. Nathanos âshowing horrorâ at any events, so far, seems like an overstatement and exaggeration.
In my opinion Nathanosâ look he gives Sylvanas in that moment she ordered them to burn Teldrassil could mean one of two things:
First Option: It was just a general âWTF?â look because that wasnt the plan. He gives her a look of confusion merely because the plan was to hold Teldrassil hostage and burning it down gives away that valuable bargaining chip. Heâs confused by her sudden change of intent and hesitates for a moment.
Second Option: He actually was shocked by her ruthlessness. Not only is she throwing away the bargaining chip that was the whole point of the plan, but committing genocide and dragging the Horde into what will be a war of vengeance for the Alliance. In the short story where we learn about how he got his new body, it seems to allude to him now having the makings of what may become those pesky things we call âthe feelsâ. Perhaps he really was horrified by her saying âBURN ITâ for a second there, realizing heâs about to murder children and innocents, but internally says âfor the Dark LadyâŠâ and goes through with it as he always does for her.
On Topic: I have no clue whose eyes those are but this mystery is becoming one of my favorites. Iâm almost assuredly going to be disappointed when its revealed.
He didâŠ
"Have you forgotten your humiliation on the Broken Shore? How your mighty Warchief was stuck in the belly like a helpless piglet? Will you die slowly as he did, consumed by fel corruption and squealing for a merciful end?
Your pathetic Horde will fall to dust. In the end, death will inherit this world⊠and she will be waiting."
In the context of the fight, I think She is the Titan Azeroth.
In the Mythic phase, we get these quotes
âBehold the shadow of what is to come, the endless darkness that shall consume your world.â
And this quote is in a Phase of the fight that is titled âVisions of the Dark Titanâ Which could be Sargaras, but it could have a double meaning for a corrupted Azeroth.
âGaze upon the inevitable end of all you know⊠all you fought for!â
" He will⊠yet claim⊠this titanâŠ"
Iâm stretching a little bit, but Azeroth is a âSheâ and I am not sure who else he could be talking about. Except maybe Sylvanas or Elune, both are playing large roles in BFA.
Also, I just realized that the fight with Gulâdan Mirrors the fight with Illidan from TBC, and Gulâdan even shares the same lines. Both Gulâdan and Illidan say the following voice lines during their fight:
" Feel the power⊠of the demon within!"
âBehold the flames of Azzinoth!â
âYou are not prepared!â
" Was that all the fury you could muster?"
Maybe this is just because Illidan absorbed Gulâdanâs power and his memories⊠or maybe this means something more sinister⊠During that fight, Illidanâs body was without his soul⊠How can we be sure that the Illidan we met was the true Illidan?
Regardless⊠this quote is very telling that Gulâdan knew something that we did not.
âdeath will inherit this world⊠and she will be waiting.â
As a side note, apparently heâs been suffering some âside-effectsâ since Sylvanas forced him to take his new body. According to the end of Dark Mirror, by being fused to the cousin that was sacrificed for his higher-tier undead form ⊠heâs begun experiencing feelings and sensations he hasnât felt since he was alive. Most notably a pang of regret over his cousinâs death, and heâs reacquired a pretty reasonable sense of smell again (for better or worse on the latter).
He outright questioned Sylvie in âBtSâ; he was unusually quiet and pensive when Sylvanas ordered him to take the shot and destroy his home (Lordaeron); and he seemed shocked by her decision to burn âTeldrassilâ. There is something there ⊠no idea what it is yet. However, it would be kind of funny if the body she forced upon him ultimately is what results in him breaking free of her control. ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Isnât that the same pair of glowing eyes on one of the legion buildings? I was trying to remember where I saw it and Iâm sure it was all over the place in areas with BL structures. Only they were green there. I mean it could just be Blizzard reusing an asset and thereâs nothing to this line of thought.
âThe Light struck a bargain with the true enemy.â
Light and the Legion, perhaps? Xeâra being killed by Illidan might of had more repercussions than we realize. This could mean that Sargaras and The Light have a mutual enemy in Illidan.
I am not sure if I like that theory, but itâs a theory. It still doesnât answer who this mysterious âSheâ is, mentioned by Gulâdan.
Death ties into Bwonsamdi, and Volâjin, who died. Bwonsamdiâs boss⊠but Bwonsamdi does not listen or does not answer to Volâjin⊠So it may not be this âBossâ we hear about, unless that Boss is keeping Volâjinn hidden from Bwonsamdi. Or Bwonsamdi is willfully ignoring himâŠ
What âSheâ is associated with death?
Eyir
Helya - Helya and Eyir have stake in Sylvanas⊠They might be working against each other, each with their own pawns.
Sylvanas - Varimathras warned us⊠He and Gulâdan were both servants of the Burning Legion. What did the Legion know that we donât? How did they know? Is this something Illidan will learn from Sargaras?
Elune? - (Blood Moon appears where Bwonsamdi is)
Azeroth? - (Mentioned that she is dying in The Speaker comic. Old Gods clamed to have corrupted her heart⊠we carry The Heart of Azeroth)
Golden Eyes⊠Azerite is gold. So that could be associated with Azeroth herself. Eyir is Gold. Maybe the Light Stuck a Bargin with the True enemy means Eyir and Helya are working together for⊠reasons? Or they have at least stuck some sort of Bargain. Xeâra said Illidan had âLight in his eyesâ.
There are so many things it could be.
Edit: âSheâ could also be Xalâatath. It is rumored that she, herself is the remnant of an Old God. And she is up to something, clearly. She is not Gold though.
This âtrue enemy ofâŠâ talk, everyone points to death. Isnât death part of the natural cycle, though? Not really an enemy, imo. Wouldnât a truer enemy of all or of life be undeath because itâs unnatural?
Could be, I think people point at death because The Whispers that made the claim of âThe True enemyâ said that Death is the end of all things and all possibilities.
But yes, I believe Elune is a deity associated with the natural relationship of Life and Death, personified as The Mother Moon and The Night Warrior, and represented by her phases.
And it would see Sylvanas serves Undeath far more than death itself, and shows no interest in preserving the natural sanctity of death.
Well, IF undeath is the true enemy, why would the Light strike a bargain with her? The Lich King still controls the majority of the undead on Azeroth. ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
I just went to Bolvarâs Wowpedia page, and it seems like he was a Paladin before he was the Lich KingâŠ
We cracked the code! Our theory is #1, all other theories are #2 or lower!
The Comic only said Sylvanas serves the true enemy not that she serves the forces of DeathâŠ
The agents of Death(Bwomsamdi who has a boss and Bolvar who sits on the anchor between the physical realm and the realm of Death) say she disrupts the Balance⊠Agent of Light Eyrir on the other hand merely says that the Hand of Valor doesnât mess with mortal politics.
The true enemy might very well be any cosmic Force whether it be Light(in which case the enemy of all is just a term for Sylvanas), Arcane(it has a realm as shown by Aluneth), Life(we know that Sporemounds will consume everything if left unchecked), Void(not all Void Lords are on the same page), Death(obviously not on the side of Bwomsamdiâs Boss) or Fel(âBound by dat throne? No! Free! Free!â).