Glimpse is a terrible PvP talent for DH.
Its maybe a 2 sec “iframe” (also bugs out and sometimes ends before you land) that you have to give up either big incap or MS. Big darkness is mandatory in 100% of games and reverse is mandatory in 99%. Make it last 3-5 sec upon landing as well or at least the wall part and then its a real contender.
Also where are our class changes? Mages have been the best class this season again and have had massive talent overhauls then we get this pfft.
Make first blood baseline btw.
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Been immune to cc and damage reduction for 1 or 2 seconds while we are in the air is not worthy at all. While other classes have a shield that prevent ccs like paladin for 8 seconds.
There are other better pvp talents. I was expecting that addition was going to be done in the normal talent , not in the pvp
Sad they do not listen to the community.
- We say leach! We need more.
- Blizzard say let me give you some thing that you didn’t ask and promise is amazing and well… Is not
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I have limited pvp experience on DH, but it feels like another one of those talents where DHs have to make a hard read about when Damage/CC is coming and pre-emptively react.
Just something else to add to the list
Pre-blur
Pre-Darkness
Pre-Rain from Above
now Pre-Glimpse
You can thank the people who kept complaining they wanted this class to have a higher skill cap.
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you can retreat> fel rush> fel rush> cov ability blink with iframes whole time till you land on the blink.
its really strong to get away from dks low key broken vs some wheel chair classes.
You can say that about a lot of classes with how Bursty everything is right now.
So we can use every mobility cd we have to MAYBE escape a hoj?
Holy crap man you are such a big brain gamer.
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Glimps+rain will make dh unkillable against casters in 2s. Can’t afford to play it in 3s though with all the mandatory talents dh already has.
I feel like I’ll use it. I already use meld to avoid cc and meta leap. Maybe combo it with meta you’ll have a few seconds to dodge incoming damage and cc.
It has a time limit for some reason. Use it into rain and it will expire about 3 seconds before you land. Seems a bit risky to me.
That sucks. Glimps is pretty worthless then.
It’ll be a great ability for wpvp and some BGs.
will glimpse at least will breack ccs? or roots?
Glimpse is not bad, its just hard to juggle so many talents that feel like they are required for our class to be as efficient as others.
it feels like reverse magic or immolation cleanse is required with how often we are rooted or to give our team any kind of utility from our class.
it feels like darkness is required to survive (this is so bad if a talent is required to just survive it should be baseline)
it feels like imprison is required again so we have utility and can contribute to cc chains or peeling.
mortal rush will feel required if your using hunt legendary to get free unbound chaos procs so you can hunt fel rush immolate fel rush and having a healing debuff while your burst CLEAVING.(it kind of feels like mortal rush should be baked into unbound chaos)
I have played over 5 classes at max lvl and around 2k rating this season and what frustrates me so much is that although every class has similar issues none of them seem to be as bad as dh where all 3 pvp talents are basically required to be certain talents or you cant play pvp at least not rated and even when you choose the talents required its not like it makes you top tier it just makes you ok at best.
Normal skills to survive should not be talents. Talents are ment to enhance something by a little factor.
Dh have zero way to survive, leech is a average of 200 per second. For a window of 6 seconds. Even blur and darkness combine can’t save you.
Blur should be a 70% chance to dodge everything! As my understanding is just physical attacks. And dots still hit you and magic (not sure if magic is 80%)
Every other single class have very good defensive baseline. And they offer glimpse as a response? A 2 sec immune to cc? Doesn’t even break ccs.
Blizz Don’t add other variants to the equation while not fixing the current ones.
Fix blur! Darkness is really bad!!! Usless… And mostly we never asked you for glimpse. No dh raised their hand as you so mentioned feedback about “hey would be cool if we can’t be cc while in mid air of retrieve…”
Fix dh defensives! Give a good leech and good blur!
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no, if they root you you can’t use it, that’s why it sucks
Retreat should free you from roots base line
I agree with this. I feel like big dark and mortal rush (if you don’t have a MS partner) are pretty much required which leaves 1 slot left which will most likely be taken by reverse or incap.
I think they should just bake mortal rush into FR, it won’t really be a big deal for pve and will make pvp life easier.
Or at least make our defensives less rng. darkness AND blur are both rng dependent defensives.
I get what you mean, it doesn’t seem like something I have any faith in Blizzard fixing this expo.
It’s weird watching them like limit the number of buttons DH has so the class remains simple, while also not making those buttons good baseline in pvp.
Like imagine if they removed Sharpen Blade from Warriors, made them have to talent into the healing reduction for Mortal Strike and also made Spell Reflect a pvp talent, and then maybe a Warrior would have an idea of how stupid DH PvP is(but not really because Warrior kit is still pretty deep even if those nerfs happened heh).
I am still surprise when people think dh has less skills or button to press than other classes. Having multiple alts. All have more less the same damage skill and some extra tools. One or two more and some are very situational, example walk on water. Hunter seeing trough the eyes of their pet, warlock adding portals, mages making portals are skills but are not damage dealer are tool oriented that goes with the class.
Glimpse is bad because they adding another variable to the game and they haven’t fix the current ones, because what it offer is not worthy. Like the rest of the survival talents, or the last row.
Wow is just an illusion of choise.