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Frost
- Glacial Spike deals 15% less damage and its Mastery scaling is now 60% effective (was 75%) in PvP combat.
- Frostbolt deals 100% increased damage in PvP combat (was 50%).
not too surprising. they could have been way more drastic so ill take it
This with 25% nerf on crits mage is dead
that is going to hurt fire/frost so bad
Why is Glacial being nerfed?
this is a dramatic take lol
because it hit 220k
To hit like this it must crit and have other modifiers on. Somebody half HP with 5 globals to build it up and 2.1 s to cast, the dmg seems fine.
He is not being dramatic. When Glacial does not crit it hits for like 80k. With this one and the crit nerf, the talent might be dead for pvp if 2 Frostbolts deal more dmg than a single Glacial.
the “5 global build up” is just doing your normal damage rotation. if we only got icicles from frostbolt then this would be a valid complaint, but you get given spikes without any effort. the modifiers are also just normal buttons; flurry, spike, nova before it lands. it’s not hard enough to deserve hitting as hard as 2 crit chaos bolts lol
in no world does a 15% nerf to damage make it hit less than 2 frostbolts lmao. mages will be hurt by the crit change but so will more than half the classes in the game, the meta will slow down overall.
Not at all its facts
Whew, Mages were getting to powerful.
You mean decent for once?
lol man, mages have been s tier for 90%+ of the games existence, lets not go overboard here.
Not really dramatic. Fire is already in a bad place and all of its burst damage and entire core mechanic revolves around crit. Frost’s core mechanic also revolves around [Shatter] crits. This is basically a 25% nerf to these specs.
It’s hasn’t been good since Shadowlands S3 after they nerfed the trinket that made Frost good, although 100% justified because that was just stupidity at its maximum. It’s also pretty rough in Dragonflight and it’s quite probably the hardest DPS to play in PvP by a very good margin.
Also, it been good in the past doesn’t mean it should suck now. There shouldn’t be a “past tax” balance.
Not frost it died a long time ago
was talking about frost, since this is discussing glacial spike nerfs. yeah fire is weak, and this wont help.
the crit change is also a heavy nerf to ele, arms, ww, destro, dev though. it’s way too early to say this is going to ruin mage when the meta is going to slow down so dramatically.
i was playin frost in bfa and SL. dead is an overstatement
Sure, I didn’t claim other specs wouldn’t feel a heavy nerf as well, but I still think Frost and Fire are going to feel it more than anyone else. Their entire core mechanics revolve around crits after all, which is why I say it’s not really dramatic unless other stuff gets changed for mages. It is almost a direct 25% damage nerf overall.
yeah, probably back a weak necro build, spamming frost bolts into 3 targets, only viable with a lock…load up on mastery, no clue…rm 2’s rmp 3’s is dead.