I do think changes are warranted (hence my post) - I just think giving everyone +5 weapon skill, for free, is the lamest possible solution.
Weapon skill is the most interesting stat in Classic WoW. Giving everyone +5 for free is basically just removing it from the game. Lame!
Much better to take it away from Orcs/Humans (and then give a flat damage bonus with those weapons to compensate) so that ALL races can build their gear sets around it, instead of just automatically winning at the character select screen.
It’s not about being special, it’s about viability. If you get it through a racial, you now have different options, but other races can actually play the game instead of being forced to reroll. It ALSO opens up weapon viability and diversity for melee. It is an all around good change for everyone.
That would be a nerf to damage. You fundamentally do not understand the benefit of weapon skill and WHY it’s so required for melee.
But you’re only really looking at the RP element side of things and not the primary reason for the change. Which is how weapon skill impacts melee and WHY you were essentially required to play a single race for dps as a melee.
Adding in more sources of the +5 weapon skill allows all races a chance at the table and fixes the long standing weapon disparity in gearing. There are SO MANY melee weapons that go to waste at 60 because they aren’t swords or maces on Alliance or Axes on Horde.
Having the weapon skill be a baseline allows for more items to be viable and desired and more races to come to the table. If they want to rework the skill racials into something flavorful for those races, like some bonus crit or something, I am all for that, but to act like this came out of left field is just silly. Anyone that went through Era as a melee KNEW this is what would happen and knew WHY too.
i got a better idea, how bout we get rid of SoD and stop trying to split the community base. theres a reason people still play era 20 years after it was made. cuz its imperfections are perfect =)
i never said i was mad in the slightest, this makes me think that youre mad about what i said =) lololol dont get mad, get glad. #SoD is trash #cry-more#go back to retail
FYI i main melee, and weapon skill is not REQUIRED. its only needed if youre a parse monkey. in which case, git gud and role the right race… didnt you know WoW is racist? its 2024 everything is racist lmao
Sucks for humans and to a lesser extent orcs, but oh well. I think the change is warranted for the greater good of the game.
All you goons who went human just because of the weapon skill should have known something like this was coming. I’m sure many of you made your human warriors on launch day with a smug smile on your face thinking you had it all figured out lol. First warriors aren’t the undisputed gods they were, and now weapon skill isn’t going to be an exclusive racial. Neckbeards blown out eternally.
Now melee can be more than 1 race on either faction without being forced into swiping if they want to be competitive. Even if you picked orc back in the day there was a chance you’d end up buying edgies anyways. People wearing edgies into naxx was kind of stupid tbh, but that’s what you had to do to be competitive.
Certain people also don’t have to worry about ACGL now either.
I don’t have any sympathy for you if you’re going to reroll over not having an exclusive weapon skill. If you want to min-max that hard, then pay the price and don’t cry.
Not sure what the implementation will be, but if alliance can get +axe then all the better for everyone if that’s all you get to drop.
And to the guys in this thread saying +5 weapon skill is no big deal – you’re wrong. It’s about the best improvement you can make for a melee character stat wise, especially if you’re a tank. It was so strong that you either had to be a human or buy edgemasters for a gorillion gold if you were serious at all.
TL;DR: quit crying. Reroll if you want, I don’t think most people care. It’s a good change. Also, nerf shaman. To the ground baby.
Yeah, this change is really lame. It’s skewed to heavily favor horde who already have big active cooldowns like blood fury and berserkerig. Blizz should also allow people to select the active abilities if they dont want the +5.
If you get it through a racial, then you are literally no different than someone who gets it from a quest after Blizzard’s upcoming changes. The only advantage is that you don’t have to do the quest.
This effectively removes the racials from Human/Orc. Which is dumb. Those racials are in the lore.
I am fully aware that a flat 5% damage would be less valuable than +5 weapon skill against raid bosses. But it would be more damage against +2, +1, equal level, and below mobs. Overall, it evens out.
I’m fine with +5% damage but I see nothing wrong with racial stacking with the new +5 weapon skill since 300 to 305 is already the biggest increase and higher than 308 isn’t that great.
I don’t like this as much as my suggestion for a few reasons:
305 → 308 weapon skill literally only matters against mobs that are +3 levels above you. Worthless in PvP, equal level mobs, etc.
It completely eliminates weapon skill as a stat for Orcs and Humans. There is no benefit to going beyond 310. If Blizzard is going to continue to add weapon skill items, then we probably don’t want this.
My solution would make all races want the same gear, while still giving Orcs/Humans a slight edge with their preferred weapons.
As someone who usually rolls human or orc warriors for the weapon skill bonus, I am glad my group went horde this go. Humans have pretty much nothing now.
Perception is only good if you know a stealthed character is there already. The whole point of stealth is for people to not know you are there. It doesn’t become good until arenas.
As for the devs saying “we told you not to worry about it”… no…sorry, you didn’t give us a future outlook on your plan on how you would handle this and thus gave us no reason to trust you doing it or implementing it in a way that wasn’t horrible. I personally am fine with being an orc but I am mad for all the humans out there.
Said it for years since original TBC and still stand by it, racial ability’s should never have been a reason to pick your race. Blows my mind it has not been attempted yet.
